Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Shahel, Nov 5, 2004.
as title states dont mind spending £50-100 more
Its got to be the new Digital DPR 1005 from Harman Kardon. £1000 retail. As its a digital signal path reciever its much smaller, lighter and cooler running than its rivals. Follow this link.
i'd demo rotel 1056, denon 3805 & arcam avr300. Question is what are you going to use it for 50-50 music/movies? do you want any particular features auto setup, 7.1, video conversion?
for my money it has to be the Denon 3805
I looked at all the ones listed above and it has no peers when it comes to Stereo, let alone AV.
Probably right about "for the money" as the denon has come down way below 1000. But while i agree with the av there is no way that it matches in stereo.
mainly for home cinema 7.1 would be nice and has to have atleast 2-3 component inputs
try the pioneer AX5Ai.
I run a Denon 3803 which I'm very happy with, if the 3805 performs as well then it would definitely get a place on the audition list. The AVR300 is certainly more musical though, both are worthy of a good listening to.
it was one that i was looking at but from reviews i gattered it only had 2 component inputs?
Would echo the comments above about the AX5i and the Rotel.
I have a Rotel 1055 (the predecessor to the 1056) which i have owned for almost 2 years now and i dont even have the bug to upgrade, i like it that much. Not only does it have an excellent processor but the amplification is also first class, as you would expect from Rotel.
I would look to audition the following: -
Yamaha RX-V2400 or RX-V2500
I auditioned the RX-V2400 against the Denon 3805, and for movies, the Yamaha was king. The Denon was impressive in stereo though. I will try the Arcam this weekend.
The new RX-V2500 looks good from an early review, and if home cinema is your preference, this should be your main target. AVLAND sell it for a grand.
Then again, you could buy an RX-V2400 for less than £700 and spend the rest of your budget on a subwoofer, power amp, or christmas presents , for example.
one other thing the component connections have to be good for HDTV
I've actually given mine that extra boost - by bi-amping the front speakers, which I think brings the gap closer between the 3805 and the Arcam....I also think that at this level only your ears can really make the choice - and what your priority is (Stereo/AV - ease of configuration etc).
I would try these:
Denon 3805-movies, some music
Rotel 1056- movies, music
Arcam 250/300 - movies, music
Yamaha 2500 - movies
Maratnz 8500 - movies, music
I also agree about the arcam AVR250/300
The only thing that really pulls the gap back towards it from the 3805 is the ability to bi-amp the front two in 5.1 on the Arcam aswell!
The important difference between the Arcam and Denon is the power. Arcam rate the AVR250 at 75Watts RMS per channel and this is a real figure for all channels running together, whereas the Denon's claimed 120 Watts reduces drastically when all 7 channels are running!
Why exclude music from the Yamaha?
The AX5i can be had for £750 now.....that's not bad going !!
where have you seen it for £750 m8?
I have had the Denon 3805 for about 6 months and think it is fabulous. Movies come over really well - brilliant quality, but I would agree with someone else who suggested spending time an effort getting the speakers right.
I also like having the master volume displayed on the screen, so that I don't have to squint at the pannel on the front of the amp.
The remote control is extra special too. Lots of buttons that can operate lots of other devices, and it only lights up when you pick it up. Unlike some people who report problems mine has performed perfectly well (although it is a bit thirsty on power).
The MArantz SR8500 should be a great buy, it is the one I'm hoping to bag next yr, here's hoping
Sevenoaks are selling the AX5i's off for £750 !!
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