Best Aspect Ratio

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  1. NickLovett

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    Forgive me for my inexperience but I would be interested to hear which aspect ratio most people prefer when watching DVD's.
    I have a 42" Plasma Screen and a Pioneer DV-737 DVD Player and would be interested to hear people's opinions

    Nick
     
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    The aspect ratio that the movie was originally shot in of course!

    Perhaps you can explain what you are trying to get at here because your question doesn't really make sense :)
     
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    SG.

    I think he means 1:85 or 2:35.

    Thats if they're the correct ratio's :D
     
  4. Squirrel God

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    Okay - if so, why would I want to watch a 2.35:1 ratio movie with a 1.85:1 ratio? I'd be losing some of the image.

    What does "best" mean? "Best" for what? :confused:
     
  5. James45

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    I think he's asking if people prefer the wider scope look of 2.35:1 (which always tends to give a film a more epic look) or the 1.85:1 frame shape.
     
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    My favourite is Academy 4:3:D
     
  7. NickLovett

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    I see that I have created a lot of confusion. In a nutshell I am asking for advice on what is the difference ?
    I have noticed that DVD's have many different aspect ratio's and was wondering if a particular aspect ratio is better than another ?
    If you don't understand the question then just ignore it rather than wasting your time ranting and raving !!!
    After all, isn't this forum meant to be for people to seek advice...we are not all experts remember.

    Nick
     
  8. Squirrel God

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    Yes Nick, it is for advice and discussion. We just wanted you to clarify so that we could help you like we did with the R1 vs. R2 query you had earlier.

    If no-one understands your question then you will not get any responses and thus no advice. I'm sure you wouldn't want that.

    I think we all see now that you are asking what aspect ratio everyone would prefer their movies shot in. I personally would love it if they were all shot in 2.35:1 aspect ratio or higher as it feels really panoramic and gives a real sense of 'landscape' :)
     
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    SG your just a big softie at heart :p :D
     
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    See what you're getting at Nick, it's basically up to the film's director which ratio the film is shot in taking into account what effect he wants to achieve (like I said 2.35 is more epic, some Roman and biblical films in the 50s were shot as wide as 2.70:1 to give an even more epic feel).

    The best DVD ratio has to be the same as the one the film was shot in, that way you see the film exactly as the director wants it to be seen, no cropping or stretching just the film exactly as it was meant to be seen. That is why I can never understand why some people complain about 'the black bars' top and bottom which are used to make a 2.35:1 (or wider) fit into a widescreen which is 1.78:1 in ratio.
     
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    Sometimes the ratios differ between region which is really annoying :mad: For example, Boogie Nights R2 is 1.85:1 but the movie was originally shot in 2.35:1, which is what the R1 is in. Still haven't seen this movie yet btw :blush:

    As a general guide, the bigger the number on the other side of the 1, the wider the picture. Thus, 2.35:1 (sometimes you see it as 1:2.35) is wider than 1.85:1 (sometimes seen as 1:1.85). 4:3 is a regular 'square' image.

    I personally hate 1.66:1. It feels so indecisive. Not quite widescreen, not quite regular. Assuming it's not anamorphic, you zoom it up and you end up chopping off the edges, or you leave the TV in 4:3 mode to watch it and you end up with huge black borders :(
     
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    you're missing out... it's a classic in my book! Sooooo much better than his follow up Magnolia. Just ordered the uncut R1 Leon can't wait for that.
     
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    The leon is that the same one as the european one that was uncut but very hard to get hold of due to some of the scenes that had been left in it?
     
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    My reason for not seeing Boogie Nights yet is that I'm waiting for the 2-disk Boogie Nights R1 to come down in price a bit. Don't want to buy R2 (although it's cheap right now) 'cause it's the wrong ratio and I've heard that the colours are all messed up on the transfer. It'd have to go some to be better than Magnolia - that was superb.

    Not seen Leon either :blush: That's not the same director is it?
     
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    It's the R1 from Play, the Internationale Uncut or something can't believe I haven't bought this before now. I think the R2 is about 20 minutes shorter and the longer version is supposed to be MUCH better.

    SG
    the pacing was way too drawn out in Magnolia for me and I ended up not caring what happened to the characters (tom cruise was amazing tho) Boogie Nights is much tighter... it's a really great film oh and Heather Graham gets her kit off!!:devil: :D And yes the R2 transfer is one of the worst around.

    What do you mean you haven't seen Leon?!:eek: Directed by Luc Besson it's utterly fantastic, Jean Reno, Natalie Portman and Gary Oldman in one of the best, nastiest, OTT bad guy performances ever! Please go and buy this now... I'm not kidding... GO!
     
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    Many thanks for everyones feedback.
    I can now appreciate why I had everyone a little confused as I didn't fully appreciate that the ratio was occasionally a conversion from the original AR to a different format. I personally don't have a problem with the black bars top and bottom...It makes you feel like your actually in a cinema !!!

    Nick
     
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    Damn it you convinced me. Just ordered the 2-disk from Play for £18 :eek: If I don't like it, you're dead :mad: :D

    Yup :) It's the bars to the left and right that I don't like :(
     
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    I'll back James up there SG. Leon really is a brilliant film and not many aspadiatra's get a staring role in a movie either :D
     
  19. James45

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    damn tootin...:D

    two other things to remember:

    Pan & Scan: Used to be almost standard practice back in the days when everyone had square tellys. In essence a square box is placed over the original rectangular film image removing the extreme left and right of the picture (around 50% of the image is lost!!) to enable it to fill a square telly. AVOID PAN AND SCAN.

    Anamorphic widescreen: virtually all modern mainstream widescreen DVDs are now in anamorphic format (may say Enhanced for 16:9 TVs on the back of the box) won't go into the technicalities but non-anamorphic transfers need to be zoomed up on a widescreen set and the resolution usually looks bad having been zoomed.
     
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    Boogie nights is a great film. Brock landers and Chest Rockwell. :D classic
     
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    I bought Boogie Nights. Do I have to buy Leon as well ? :rolleyes:
     
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    Squirrel you've not seen Leon :eek: yes you have to buy Leon :D
     
  23. Sgt.Colon

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    Yes SG I'm afraid you do :)
     
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    Leon has some great camera work in it, some of the focus pulls are lovely.
     
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    Yes you do... these really are must haves in any collection. serious. what's the diff between the two R1 Boogie Nights on Play apart from the great retro artwork of course?
     
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    R1 international uncut version I suppose @ £16.99 :rolleyes:

    Boogie Nights - 2nd disk has lots more extras and is only £3 more than the regular version so may as well get it :D
     
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    Boogie night isnt a MUST have imo leon probably, ive got the both on VHS havent upgraded yet.
     
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    SG if it makes you feel any better I've just ordered both as well!:D
     
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    It was Henry portrait of a serial killer i think
     

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