Best 17" Laptop around £450?

Filipino

Novice Member
Hi lads, looking for a 17" laptop around £400 - £450, will be using mainly for uni work, web browsing and games (nothing too demanding, Football Manager and Left4Dead mainly). I was just wondering which is the best around this price range? The two I've been looking at are: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-Satellite-C870-11H-i3-2350M-Windows/dp/B007XERCH0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1345759795&sr=1-1 and Samsung 305E7A Laptop - Laptops | Ebuyer.com. Any suggestions other than these 2? Thanks :)
 

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