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Benq PE7700? Or is there something better...

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Marty Williams, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. Marty Williams

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    My efforts to purchase an appropriate PJ have met with abject failure (see previous posts) and so I reckon I'll ask you lot first this time.

    Right then. I'm after a projector, preferably a DLP with a 5 speed + wheel, as high a res as I can get, best possible contrast and a TRUE 16:9!.aspect ratio.

    I just wanted to make that last point clear for those of you who are about ot suggest the Toshiba MT500 :)

    I'll be projecting from a distance of 12', ceiling mounted at a height of 8.5' and projecting onto a flat white wall with a maximum screen size of 7' across the base. The room is blacked out.

    The max-budget is £1500 so I'm thinking PE7700, but I'm open to suggestioins.


    Fire away

    MW
     
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    MW,

    If you are looking at spending around £1500 on a projector,and is a DLP, 16:9 and is ready for Hi Def then the obvious choice is the Benq pe7700. If you were prepared to consider LCD then the Sony HS50 would be worth considering.

    Here is a link to AVS were someone has just carried out a comparison of both. Make sure you read down to his second observation.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=561025

    Foghorn
     
  3. Marty Williams

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    Nice one. Ta.

    I was half considering the Hs50/51(speaking of which, are they the same model?).

    THe Mitsubishi HC900U sounds like it might be worth considering for my set-up too.
     
  4. UrbanT

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    The HS50/51 are the same model. We have the 50 here in the UK, and the US version is tagged 51. Still delighted with mine after 8 months use, if you needed a recommendation :)
     
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    As far as I know the HS50 and the HS51 are the same.

    The Mitsubishi sounds like a nice machine. If you are only interested in watching dvd and tv and are not that much bothered about Hi-Def then it might suit you better.

    Foghorn
     
  6. Marty Williams

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    Hmmmm. The Sony does sound interesting.

    The Mitsi's blown out because it's screen offset is wrong for my setup, which is a pity, 'cos it sounds like it has alot going for it.

    Sony VS BenQ at the moment.

    BTW, lovely setup you have there Mr Urban T
     
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    I would go for a future proof machine and get either the BenQ 7700 or the HS50. I can recommend the BenQ very highly, but I can't say if the HS50 is any good because I haven't seen one in action. DLP Vs LCD? Well get the HS50 for contrast (LCD for contrasy? I know) and the 7700 if you want a vibrant picture out of the box.

    The one thing I read about the HS50 is that it can't handle the analogue to digital conversions very well. All ana inputs are said to be quite poor and one review even recommended you buy a 1500 DVD0 iScan HD+ to get the best out of the PJ, which will take the price of the PJ well above the 7700, silly I know.

    For easy strait forward use go for the 7700!

    for some alternatives go here: -
    http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-projectors.htm
    and for the HS51 review: -
    http://www.projectorcentral.com/sony_vpl-hs51.htm
     
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    I agree about Urban's setup:) I want to know how he gets EpII to look so good! My NeuNeo creates loads of artefacts during EpII for some reason... like line break-up and I can't get FFDShow to work like everyone else can:(
     
  9. Marty Williams

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    AH. Yes.

    I exclusively watch DVD's, no TV of any variety, and I want a detailed, film-like, contrasty image.

    The input, for the time being, will be a Component feed from my Pioneer DV737.

    So the BenQ's in the lead (it's geometry is spot on for my room too).

    Nice one folks. Anymore for anymore?
     
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    Concentrate and use the force, young Padawan ;)

     
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    I will try Master....
     
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    :rotfl:

    On a serious note, I'm not sure why you are having problems with Ep2, its actually one of my main demo discs and looks great. Weird
     
  13. Marty Williams

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    So.....

    NeuNeo.


    What's that then?
     
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    Its a DVD player I believe
     
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    Sory for the quick hijack Marty!

    Urban,
    I really dont know... on the scene from your site, Yoda breaks up and everything seems to split into lines, which dont seem to fit together? My PowerDVD runs it ok, but its soft due to not having any sort of up-conversion, this is the reason for using NeuNeo DVD player.

    I can't seem to get FFDshow running well on my super computer either: -

    AMD FX-53
    Asus A8N-SLI
    Nvidia 6800 Ultra
    Zalman resernator water cooling
    1GB OCZ 2-2-2-5 RAM
    2x 74GB 10,000rpm Raptors
    Audigy 2ZS Platinum 7.1 THX certified sound card

    It might be due to the 6800... I heard they don't support HD video processing?
     
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    Don't want to take the thread off topic, but one quick answer.

    Your PC has enough horsepower to run a small country! Perhaps start a new thread in the PC forum, with your settings currently in use, so we can have a look at them. I'm no expert, but I'll try and help if I can :)

     
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    Done Urban... please go check it out!

    Thanks
     
  19. Marty Williams

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    Hey no worries.

    It's interesting seeing what you're running. I've not ventured into the HCPC arena just yet.
     
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    As another Benq owner I would highly recommend it. :thumbsup:

    As for Ep II I have had experience of a poor picture which at first I thought was the dvd until trying it with a philips 963 player and hcpc both of which made the disc look fantastic,it was the cheap prog scan dvd player over component or vga that was at fault.
     
  21. Marty Williams

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    I think the only concern I have with the BenQ , is this reported "softness" with DVD material.

    I've just rung around the local stores to see if I could demo either the Sony or the Benq to no avail.
     
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    Where are you in the UK?
     
  23. Marty Williams

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    Sheffield.

    :thumbsup:

    Actually. I just wanted to check whether the published screen size/distance figures for the BenQ7700 were correct.

    The lens on my ceiling mounted Panasonic sits 11'10" from the projection wall which will take a maximum screen size of a little over 80" across the bottom. From what I can make out, this is pretty much well what the 7700 produces full-zoomed in at that distance.

    A close shave.

    The Sony's far more flexible.
     
  24. Marty Williams

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    Holy cow!

    Both the Sony and Benq weigh 12LBS! That's double my poor old Panasonic.

    I think I might have to bolster the ceiling mount.
     
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    Yes, that's the only concern I'd have. The TX has a pic you could cut paper on, I'd imagine the Sony is the same. The 7700 having the same res and apparently a better pixel structure than LCD should be just as sharp if not sharper, but like you I've picked up a different impression.

    I'd also miss the optical lens shift, a very useful (perhaps essential) feature for my current setup. I'd definitely audition it first...PJ :)
     
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    I too would not under estimate this feature, it is just so handy and makes setting the pj alignment just so quick and easy.
     
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    Agreed! Lens shift is something I'd wish I'd thought about a little more before buying my 7700:(
     
  28. Marty Williams

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    Fortunately, the 7700 should fit straight into my current set with, as far as I can make out, an almost identical profile to my PTAE100 which the room was built around.

    The only thing seems to be the weight. It's a tubby git.

    The floorboards are going to have to come up so's I can re-enforce the mount, curse my extreme lethargy.
     
  29. Marty Williams

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    Hold on a minute.

    Is the HS51 a significant step up from the Z3?

    The z3 seems to be about half the price and very similar spec.
     
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    Specs mean nothing. I had a Z3 before the Sony, the contrast alone is worth the extra cost :)
     

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