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Benq DV3750 €1600 / £ 1100 ??

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Xandr01, Aug 19, 2005.

  1. Xandr01

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    Just noticed: the 37" Benq DV3750 showed up at Dutch/Belgium reseller, and at about the rumored price of Euro 1600 (£ 1100). Seems like an excellent price for a panel that does native 1920x1080.
    Link: http://www.perfect-systems.nl/info.asp?info=62255

    Any thoughts?

    The panel is listed as 8ms, 800:1 contract. No HDMI, but DVI w/ HDCP.

    I am looking for something big to hook up to the HTPC, with tuner for the occasional bit of tv. The 32" DV3250 supposedly has some problems with 720p@60Hz, but I'd think it's unlikely the same hardware is used for this panel.

    Cheers,
    Sander
     
  2. RockySpieler

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    Good to see 1080p panels getting to Europe, however you should never catch the first wave of a set dude :lesson: !

    Looks good, nice response time.

    Unlike the DV3250 which has SCART (RGB), the DV3750 (according to Benq website) has S-Video instead. The US websites selling it say it is monitor, i.e. no tuner (may not be an issue to you).

    For freeview or Sky instead of S-Video, may get better picture feeding SCART RGB to VGA port, or use the single component input for YUV. Some people would prefer to keep the component (HD capable) for Xbox or DVD etc etc

    Eventually SkyHd via DVI.

    http://www.benq-eu.com/products/LCDTV/?product=576&page=specifications

    Does say PAL/NTSC compatiable, but not sure if it handles all HDTV inputs (some general problems regarding 1080p panels in USA and 1080p hdtv).

    Normal concern over 1:1 pixel mapping for PC use, plus available resolutions. Also if DVI can handle PC inputs (probably) or just PC via VGA.

    Stay stoked!
     
  3. Sledge

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    Have also been looking at this set and wondering whether it's worth importing.

    Worth the cost of the ferry ride to go check it out and bring it back undeclared.
     
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    It's EU - and the price includes VAT! Bring it in legally - or better yet - bring in 10! They are looking for agents.
     
  5. Xandr01

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    Thanks, always a good point...

    It sits under "LCD-TV" like its smaller brother DV3250, so I'd assume a tuner. The Benq-EU website seems to be copied straight from USA. The DV3250 description also mentions only composite-in whereas the european model has scart.

    I emailed the reseller, first off it was not a typo, but the real 37" deal. They didnt have full specs though and referred to the Benq website.

    Since the panel if obviously becoming available in Europe now at a pretty sweet price, reviews should spring up soon I hope... I can wait till after me holidays.
     
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    I just received the 3250 today and it does have RGB but only via the VGA input. The scart sockets only do normal and svhs.

    DTTB
     
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    Supply problems with Benq DV3750 in USA, and maybe reasons why there is no tuner:-

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=543734&highlight=dv3750

    Also disappointing news regarding PC resolutions :suicide: :-

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=569153&highlight=dv3750

    Plus this AMAZING LCD BLOG, great research:-

    http://www.employees.org/~loggie/flatpanel/

    USA AVSforum members are buying this Spectre 1080p model (not sure if its been delivered yet!):-

    http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_X37SV-Naga.htm
     
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    The US has digital HD broadcasting ATSC , and analogue NTSC broadcasts.

    ATSC requirements are explained below, it does not include any 50Hz or 576 resolutions.

    http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html

    There is US legislation which is forcing all large LCD's to have a ASTC digital tuner, this is mpeg2 based. I do not think it can be used for freeview, it might work, probably no epg and obviously it would not create HD, it may display 576i as 480i.

    I think that the cheapest way to test if ATSC works with freeview would be to buy a PCI ATSC card for a PC, and plug it in. Anyone else with more time and money then sense?

    The Spectre model listed above has both ATSC and NTSC tuners. European models of USA 1080p LCD's would not need ATSC tuners, and could be cheaper than US (yeah right).
     
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    The first sets have been delivered and Initial user reviews are appearing on Avsforum.com:-


    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=573173&page=1&pp=30

    The set's internal ATSC tuner seems to scale/de-interlace 1080i to 720p and then back to 1080p, however PC 1080x1920 is reported as OK. It is suggested on the US site that that is to do with price availability of ONE 1080i to 1080p chips, compared to price/availability of ONE 1080i to 720p chip plus ONE 720p to 1080p chip.
     
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    Wow looks impressive and it does 1920x1080 1:1 mapping from the PC which is what I want it for.

    Hmmmm, now to look into importing one of these beasties...
     
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    Has anyone bought this panel yet. The price specs ratio seem very good. The current specifications on the BenQ Eurosite:

    LCD Size 37 inch / 94 cm
    Aspect Ratio 16:9 (Wide Screen)
    Resolution (max.) 1920 x 1080
    Brightness 550 cd/m2
    Contrast 800 : 1
    Viewing angle (L/R;U/D) (CR>=10) 176 / 176
    Response time (tr/tf) 8 ms Grey to Grey
    Video Compatibility PAL / NTSC
    Input Connections Terminals
    Composite AV (2)
    2 S-Video + Audio
    Component (Y Pb Pr / Y Cb Cr) + Audio (2)
    D-Sub
    PC Audio
    DVI-HDCP + Audio
    RS232

    Speaker 15W x 2
    Features Senseye Technology
    Motion Adaptive De-Interlacing
    10 bit color processing
    RGBY 4 colors independent adjustment
    3D Y/C Comb Filter
    Picture In Picture / Picture By Picture
    Picture Freeze
    Backlight Eco Mode
    Color Temperature (Warm/Cool/Standard)
    Sleep Timer

    Dimensions (HxWxD) With Stand (HxWxD)
    1025x657x220 mm
    Without Stand (HxWxD)
    1025x591x122 mm

    Weight With Stand
    23.5 Kg
    Without Stand
    20.7 Kg

    Power supply 230W, AC 100~240V, 50/60 Hz

    Current prices here in The netherlands are round € 1400 although stocks are very low.
     
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    I hope they come over to England soon. That converts to about £950 :rolleyes:
     
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    Unfortunately they don't do 1:1 pixel mapping for PC's otherwise I'd be on a ferry to NL to pick one up and bring it home.
     
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    Stocks are low or non-existant?
     
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    There is some doubt about 1080p (1920x1080x60Hz) inputs, the Euro Benq support say it will work, but users in Hong Kong / Taiwan / Plus US support say it will not.

    It is possible that the Euro version (Scart'd up, plus PAL support) MAY work at native resolution, lets hope Spare-Rib from AVS-Forums posts his results:-

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=572675
     
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    I've got the new 37" 6E sharp on order but they aren't expected until the end of Sept. Hopefully he does post his results and they are successful so I can catch the ferry for a bit of clogg spotting.
     
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    One shop say's it has it in stock although a bit more expensive.

    On a dutch forum someone ordered one in another shop and said delivery would take about a week. He was also very interested in getting this panel to work with 1920x1080 DVI input from his PC.
     
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    Fingers crossed...
     
  21. RockySpieler

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    Dutch forum on DV3750

    http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1067411///dv3750

    I will try and learn Dutch, it isn't one of the Google translation tools options :( .

    There was some English in the posts, not good news, but still a Hong Kong DV3750, not a Euro one, may still be hope.

    Just get the Benq 37" 1080p LCD TV.
    Perfect screen with no dead or bright pixel.
    The picture is great with good contrast.
    Black is very black.
    Very good TV picture.
    1080i input via HDMI to DVI through my 9000s look great especially on computer graphic movie like Shrek, but can see little background noise in 5th Element SB edition. The 480p through my Q50 is also acceptable.
    One major drawback, PC input according to the manual support up to 1024*768 only , although I can use higher resolution, it seems that the internal converter will bring it down to 768 only. With 1920x1080 native resolution input, the display flickers. So it is rather disappointed to those using HTPC to play WMV 1080 source.
    Overall, it is a good value product, with some drawbacks such as PC connection and no HDMI input
     
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    It's an American site so not all features will be identical but it makes interesting reading so far. Found it by looking at the Dutch forum and using babelfish as advised - thanks!

    US DV3750 Forum

    Hope that's useful.

    P.S. Anyone found out if Komplett or another supplier will sell one of these screens in the UK yet as the original link has no 'add to basket' option... may just be 'cos they're out of stock of course?
     
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    Just got a reply from Komplett's marketing manager - no go on these as they are EOL - end of line!
    Maybe new versions being made in time for Sky+ HD launch? Hope so, as these were exceptionally good value for money based on their specs.
    I'd loved to ahve had an opportunity to see one in the flesh.
    Still, if they are being revised, then I hope the design is livened up a little - it's just a bit too plain to be fully acceptable.
     
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    Anyone know what's happened to this TV. I'd got my cheque book out - then, WHERE DID THEY GO:confused:
     
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    I'm almost certain I answered that inmy post directly above yours.
    Komplett were the only grey importer of it.
     
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    Hopefully Somebody will start selling a budget 1080 LCD in Europe soon.

    There must be many more chequebooks just waiting to be used. It may be that suppliers are waiting for Sky HD launch: not - I suspect - to bring out the higher spec models - but to get rid of all the old stock.
     

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