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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Buying & Building' started by marcusf, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. marcusf

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    New to AV Forums. About to buy first 'decent' TV & DVD system. Does anybody know where to get more/good information on system setup/cabling details etc (idiot's guide)? Or, am I worrying about nothing - is it really quite simple to setup and cable when it all arrives?

    Thinking of buying Sony DAVSC5/6/8 and either KV-32LS36 or KV-32FX68/FQ70.

    Many thanks in advance.
     
  2. DDDavo

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    Don't worry. With most and definatly sony its plug the red cable into the red speaker (labled red) and into the red socket on teh back of the DVD player!

    There is nothing to it, there are just a lot of wires everywhere. Also, note there is hardly any difference from the SC5 to the SC6 and 8, mainly just price and taller speakers as you go up the models. Decide exactly what you want one for!
     
  3. marcusf

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    Thanks DDDavo.

    On the subject of the DAV5 v 6 v 8, I can see the obvious difference between speakers and Watts output, but is there much functionality difference?

    I'm going from a 12 year old Ferguson 21" TV, so I would guess that anything from this range is going to be impressive. In a nutshell, is there anything I will miss out on by going for the DAVSC5 instead of the DAVSC8?
     
  4. jaymac

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    the 8 has an active sub
     
  5. marcusf

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    Safe to assume I know nothing!!

    Can you please 'explain active sub' to me? How much and what differences does this actually make?
     
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    Hello marcus,

    An active sub means that it has it's own in built amplifier and runs off it's own power supply, whilst a passive sub runs off the main amplifier. Generally this means that with an active you get better bass and more realistic deep booms. A passive means your amp is working harder and you don't get as good a bass.

    I think that's why anyway lol

    James :)
     
  7. marcusf

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    Thanks James - information overload for me at the moment with all the 'research' I have been doing. Just had a small windfall recently, so can afford the DAVSC8, so will probably go for that one.
     
  8. DDDavo

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    Hangon, i'm not trying to put you off the SC8 but if you do want an active sub then maybe consider a different system (non sony) if you want to save money.

    I am satisfied with my passive sub. Generally active subs arte better at drawing less attention to themselves during music (say on a film) but creating a use explosion effect when necessary, where as a passive can be less efficient at orivding a real boom.

    Having said that how often are you intending to use your system and for what purposes. I think the SC8 has component out but you can forget about as you probably wouldn't use that. the SC5 has rgb scart out.

    The thing is if you haven't heard the difference between a passive and active sub then you don't know what to choose. Some passive subs are extrememly efficient but other makes offer some punchy bass systems for a lot lot less. You could take the separates route and buy a DVD player, optical cable and surround kit.

    I would reccoment the Acoustic solutions http://www.acousticsolutions.net/product.asp?ID=56

    I know two people who own this, one bought from comet the other Argos. Argos sell it for £180 i think, the DS 1033. The subwoofer is PHENOMENAL and with the speakers on stands it saves shelling out £35 per pair! Sound quality from it is second to none and i would have bought one if i hadn't bought my all in one! You could then buy a DVD player and optical cable which connects the sound output from the DVD player to the surround kit for full 5.1 Surround.

    The thing is i guess you want an easy route (all in ones) with being new to it but if you are interested in separates that surround kit is great! Especially for bass. And you could do it all for £300 ish depending whether you wanted a DVD player with SACD and progressive out but i won't go there at the mo!

    Hope that helps
     
  9. marcusf

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    Thanks for all the DDDavo.

    I would estimate (a wild estimation!!) that my new TV/All-in-One system would be used as follows:

    Normal TV Viewing (ie Mrs watching soaps) 60%
    PlayStation 5%
    Radio Tuner 5%
    Listening to music CDs 20%
    Watching DVD 10%

    Knowing this - where would you concentrate your funds?
     
  10. jaymac

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    have a think about the pioneer dv99 active sub plus sacd and dvd audio possibly better for the cd listening you can download its manual from pioneer site a lot of control over sound set ups and has good review from what hi fi sound and vision and it is now down below £400
     
  11. DDDavo

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    So i gather you would use the home cinema setup as sound output from the Tv where the sub is less active anyway. Music and DVDs are the main concern and its DVD's where the active sub leads, bearing in mind, passive subs are also good.

    I use mine mostly for sound output from PC, Keyboard and TV (VCR) as well as for music playback (MP3 or standard audio disks and don't really use super audio CD playback which it supports)

    Looking at your uses i wouldn't say an active sub is necessary but ther are many systems for around £200 (all on ones) that have an active sub (just not sony) My advice is look at different makes.

    Would you be interested in separated DVD player and cinema kit or do you want the ease of an all in one?
     
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    I don't agree that an active sub is necessarily better than a passive sub. Obviously at the high end of home cinema systems you have to have an active sub because power demands are so high and that would require the sub to have its own psu and amplifier making it active. However at the bottom end with all in ones below the £1000 mark there is no reason why a passive sub can't beat an active sub. There are many systems with passive subwoofers that give great bass and systems with active subs that do not. There is also the benefit of passive subs that they don't consume power in standby mode and theres no chance that they will go into sleep/standby mode when your watching something that has infrequent bass. You also have the benefit that passive subs are only connected by speaker cable and don't need a mains connection so you have more freedom to put them where you want. Its fair to say though that an active has more status because it sounds the same as high end systems. Thats 'sounds the same' as in description not actually sound quality.
     

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