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BBC1 Tonight at 8pm, Bleak House in filmed HD

Discussion in 'TVs' started by swanny78, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. swanny78

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    Ill watch it .... and I hate period dramas
     
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    Lots of BBC television is filmed in HD but is transferred to SD for transmission.
     
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    Ill be watching for gillian anderson ohhh yeah.
     
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    A dog lover i see..... :rolleyes:
     
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    And the reason to get excited over this is....??

    Check it out, films have almost infinite resolutions and then scaled down when broadcast on BBC!!!1one
     
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    Damned good series so far. And since it's filmed in HD watching it again next year in HD will be great. Is the BBC supporting Blue Ray or HD-DVD?
     
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    I suspect the BBC Worldwide division that looks after pre-recorded releases will be waiting a while before deciding on a single format, or both.
     
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    Damn right! Absolute goddess! :clap: :thumbsup: :) :D :blush: :zonked: :blush: :laugh:

    Loadsofleads you are hereby banished from this thread never to return for such herasy!!! ;)
     
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    You all maybe dissapointed, as I'm sure the 8pm time-slot on Mondays is Eastenders!!!!!
     
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    t'was posted on Thursday... :) still good show, just hard to keep up with schedule seems to be on different times everyday...confused my series link on sky+
     
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    Ahh I see........ :oops: So, was the anticipation justified?
     
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    Good show, although of course the pic is downscaled so in that respect no.
     
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    I don't know - it certainly looked pretty close to a "film look" to me, and massively better than drama shot on SD video and "filmised" - like Dr Who, Heartbeat etc.

    The lack of edge, and decent highlight and lowlight handling was a major improvement over most SD video drama we see, and it was pretty close to looking like film originated drama to me.
     
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    "Home & Away" is filmed in HD and downscaled, but using a scaler it is the best picture I have seen on TV. Better than some DVDs.
     
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    Watched BH on a SDI modded Sky box, via a scaler to a Pio plasma. This was the best PQ I've yet seen from a broadcast programme, and right up there with DVD. Awesome.

    Difficult to see how the real HD could be better, but I guess it will be.
     
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    I think it definately will be. When I compare the best quality upscaled SD with top quality HD, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference. :smashin:
     
  18. Stephen Neal

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    Thought H&W goes through a very tortured post-production process - or did.

    It is shot 1080/25p, scaled down to 576/25p for post production using 576/50i conventional DigiBeta suites (avoiding vertical processing) and then frame repeated for TX at 576/50p in Aus.

    Whilst it is shot 25p there is little effort made to make it look like film - it is a strange choice really. It has all the bad aspects of soap's video look (dodgy lighting etc.) but the flicker of film. Suspect the only reason they went 25p was so that they could claim the 576/50p delivery was "HD" (even though it is an SD edit) - if they'd shot 1080/50i they'd have had to convert to 576/50i - and that would not be classified HD - even in Aus...
     
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    Hi Stephen

    I have no knowledge of the post-production processes, but I get a very clear and defined picture. But it does look more like film compared to the British soaps.

    Doc
     
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    If you simplify things there are two or three techniques used to make video look like film :

    1. Reduce the number of pictures per second from 50 to 25.
    2. Process the picture either when shooting or in post-production to make the colour, greyscale, gamma, highlights, lowlights and "edge" look like film
    3. Use lighting and use lenses in the way film has traditionally.

    Home and Away do 1 because they shoot at 25p (i.e. 25 frames per second) rather than 50i (i.e. 50 fields per second) but to my eye they aren't doing much of 2 and none of 3. In other words it looks like video - but shot at 25p.

    When you look at situations where drama is being shot like film - but using a video camera, then 3. is normally a given and 1. and 2. are usual as well.

    Bleak House looks very much like clean film (they've resisted the temptation to add fake grain and film dirt/sparkle/scratch - unlike others...) and is certainly very watchable.
     

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