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BBC threatens to withdraw its channels from Sky

Discussion in 'Sky Digital TV Forum' started by Lex, Nov 1, 2002.

  1. Lex

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    Taken from wotsat:

    The BBC is considering taking the controversial step of withdrawing its channels from Sky Digital if carriage fees are increased in May next year, according to national press reports. The BBC's Senior Policy Adviser, Julian McGougan, has said: "We fear the fee Sky wants to charge us could at least triple. At some point we may have to say, sorry, something has to give and one of our options is to take our channels off the platform."

    :eek: :( :mad:
     
  2. Starburst

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    I would be slightly concerned but it ain't going to happen:)

    The BBC are worried that now the ITC have confirmed that the charges SKY make to ITV for subscription managment etc are fair and reasonable they will also apply to the Beeb as well when their existing contract runs out next year.
    Smart move on the BBC's part to get the first volley in to gather public support and to remind SKY in a round about who their friends were when SKY D launched.
     
  3. LV426

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    Wouldn't worry me if it did. Sky? Oh, yes, I remember. It a way of shelling out huge amounts of money to watch 4x3 TV with intrusive adverts and DOGs.
     
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    Yes but it's One and Two which are dogless and widescreen which could disappear!

    However it won't ever happen and sounds like Auntie just getting ready to handbag Rupert a bit...
     
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  6. Lex

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    Taken from wotsat news:


    BBC's digitals demands 'absurd' says Sky boss!

    Sky's chief executive, Tony Ball, has dismissed the BBC's calls for cheaper fees for distribution on the satellite network, labelling the corporation's demands "absurd", according to the Daily Telegraph. He said he was sick of rivals' demands for discounts and said the company was justified in charging what it did after four years of capital investment. ITV has already lodged an official complaint against the £17m fee Sky charges the channel to appear on its satellite TV network, but Oftel, the telecoms watchdog, rejected its case two weeks ago. Mr Ball said the broadcaster would not back down in the face of a threatened BBC boycott, which could also see Channel 4 withdrawing from Sky's basic package.
     
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    If this happens, Sky will probably reduce the subscription price!




    Hey, what are you laughing at? Come on, it could happen.
     
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    This is all well and good, but the freeview channels from the Beeb are still not available in large parts of the country, and the Beeb is using Sky either through subscription or FreeSat, if the Beeb redraws from Sky, are they going to ensure the whole country gets freeview, or will the 2012 timetable still stand? Currently I only get these channels through Sky and would have have to resort to analgue again if the service was pulled.
     
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    Seeing as this was 4 years ago, I wouldn't panic too much.
     
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    Why did you ressurect this thread from the archives? I've wasted my time reading it not realising its from 2002.
     
  11. Moviebuff

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    I wouldn't have realised that, if you hadn't have said - somebody has been using the search function to the max!!!! :confused:
     
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    its april foolsday come early
     
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    How annoying, this thread had me worried as well.
     
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    Yeah:)


    With the new pricing structure coming into force in a few days I thought the BBC had taken pro-active action against SKY then I read a few posts:)
     
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    yeh, a golden oldie.

    still. if the BEEB stopped making so many home improvment shows or "Celebrity" dressing up like a tube with Forsyth and Norton then they could pay sky much more!
     
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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
    NOW! that was a real joke m8
     
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    Also, ITV would have to stop funding for such shows as 'When Buildings Attack' and 'Kettles From Hell'.

    Not forgetting the classic 'Celebrity Arse Swap'.

    Possibly.
     
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    It was the mention of the ITC that made me look at the dates.
     
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    :rotfl:

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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
  20. Billy Hunt

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    LOL

    I thought this post didn't make much sense
     
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    I wish they would go as I never wanted the BBC or to pay the tv licence for channels I don’t want however even with sky we are forced to receive them, if they left it could begin the end for the TV licence, why should i pay for a service I don’t want,

    Unfortunately its never going to happen.
     
  22. Billy Hunt

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    I think you would have to pay for a TV licence even if you couldn't watch BBC as the licence is for the TV and not so much a subscription to watch BBC.

    I personally like the BBC it's ITV that needs to either buck up or shut down.
     
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    the license funds the BBC. no BBC, no license fee.
     
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    Gaz is right in my opinion.
     
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    in fact too :p all other channels are self funded by adverts and stuff. the license fee is solely to fund the BBC. personally i'd prefer to have them show adverts, and reduce the fee. with advertising revenue, and a reduced license fee, we might get a top quality channel aqs they wouldnt be short of cash.
     
  26. Billy Hunt

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    I don't think it's that simple
    Yes we all know the licence fee funds the BBC, but you don't pay the licence fee to watch the BBC.
    You pay the licence fee to own TV receiving equipment.
    If it was as easy as not having the BBC to avoid paying the fee the shops would be full of TV's that couldn't receive BBC so all the people that didn't want it could choose not to.
     
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    it is as simple. the fact is legally if you have a tv that can be tuned, which is them all, then you need to pay a license fee. its not in the fact the TV that requires the license, its the tuner. a tuner card for a PC also needs a license. the BBC receive 75% of their income from the license. they also make and seel programs accounting for the rest.

    and as most wont know, C4 have stated with the digital switch over, if they are to continue to broadcast free, they will need help. its been anounced that the switchover of C4 to fully digital will be paid for from the license fee.
    no decision as of yet if they will continue to receive funds from it when the switchover is complete.
     
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    i think BBc are try to save as much money as possible in the future because ethey wont be getting the massive licence fee increase they wanted

    looks like the BBC will be getting thier just deserts.

    sorry never liked having to pay for a tv licence i should have a choice to watch and there for pay the BBC or not. and as for the radio surpised they dont licence that as well gready sods.

    god im biased
     
  29. Knyght_byte

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    i'd rather they didnt have adverts.......i know i can just fast forward through them by recording everything before i watch it etc, that i dont have issue with, what does annoy me is it means shorter shows......most BBC dramas etc are 50 minutes or 57 minutes, most dramas on other channels are only 45minutes at best with two lots of 5 minute adverts plus the fillers between programs (or in the case of US shows often 40-42 minutes).....half hour programs on the beeb are more or less half an hour (usually 27-28 minutes to allow brief fillers), on other channels they are sometimes barely 22 minutes!

    however i do feel the beeb must be putting a lot of money in to things wrongly, when you consider that even if they only got 10 million licences paid a year (bearing in mind that there wont be more than around 15 million households, you cant use the UK population figure as a lot of people do still live together), thats still around £1bn in revenue, plus what they make from various royalties/sales worldwide.......i know the beeb does cover a very wide range of things now, radio and TV in this country and many others, plus the spiralling costs of paying presenters with footballers wages all mounts up, but still, i'm aware of the bureaucracy in the beeb having known a number of people working for them and its massive....bit like government to be honest....so it would be nice if more of the licence fee we pay did actually go towards the shows we watch, rather than opting for cheaply made reality shows....the only downside there of course is the public went mad for these shows for a while so the TV companies made a decision to give us more realising it would save them some cash.....but now people dont want them, the TV companies (incl the beeb) are stuck because they had spare capital and ended up spending it on silly things (like overpaid presenters) and now they are coming up dry in the coffers (or possibly more likely they'd rather not reveal if there is any spare capital to use for production as it would mean having to use it and not pay shareholders/directors/etc (again this if any company, not just beeb)...

    i'd still rather not have adverts tho.....
     
  30. Billy Hunt

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    Is that not what I said
    So we're are singing to the same tune?

    You seem to be contradicting yourself.

    On one hand you say no BBC no licence fee but then you say, you pay the licence fee for the TV recieving equipment.

    So if there was no BBC you would still have to pay the licence fee because you still have TV receiving equipment whether the BBC exists or not
     

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