BBC HD on Sky - positively, definitely, absolutely

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  1. daniel.godfrey

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    Since the news stories from the BBC have been slightly contradictory, I thought I'd share this from the BBC's website:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/digital/tv/hdtv.shtml

    The most important extract is this:

    "What are the BBC's plans?
    We will launch a BBC HD trial from mid 2006. It will include some of the best sport, drama, events and documentaries from BBC ONE and BBC TWO. BBC HD will be part time and show around two hours or more of programmes each day.

    The BBC's HD programmes will be free to anyone who has the right equipment – an "HD Ready" display and satellite or cable HD service and set top box. The BBC HD trial will last 6-12 months and have an end date so we can assess how it has gone."

    So the BBC will definitively be showing HD material over Sky during the World Cup!

    Hooray!

    In case this has already been posted, I'll get me flameproofs!

    Daniel
     
  2. Nick_UK

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    "Two hours of HD material each day"

    Might just be showing clips from various programmes. I don't see any mention of the world cup.
     
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    There is an article on the World Cup in HDTV here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4834322.stm

    and there is a paragraph in there that says:

    It's a very misleading article if the BBC don't intend to use SkyHD to broadcast the World Cup, even if they don't say this explicitly.
     
  5. mark800

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    More proof. This just in from the BBC:

    Thank you for contacting the BBC with your enquiry.

    The BBC's HD satellite service will be unencrypted and free to air. You will need to get a suitable set top box from your provider, and this may cost a fee or require a subscription.

    The BBC is in talks with cable and satellite operators who plan to launch services later this year.

    It's worth mentioning that this is a trial, not be a full service, and will have an end date.

    Our High Definition website contains more information:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/digital/tv/hdtv.shtml

    I hope you find this helpful

    Kind regards

    Steven Derrick
    BBC Reception Advice
     
  6. gerryman62

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    if you go to skyhd website clik on bbchd i:thumbsup: t says will be showing world cup
     
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    On their site it says:
    " It will include some of the best sport, drama, events and documentaries from BBC ONE and BBC TWO."

    Only letdown for me is no mention of BBC 3. Most of the best new comedy is on there first. In fact if they could add that and channel 4 would start broadcasting, I'd have just about all my viewing covered.
     
  8. loz

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    To be pedantic, they won't be showing it "over Sky". :devil:
     
  9. loz

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    I would say the opposite.
    The fact that it doesn't mention Sky shows that it is nothing to do with Sky.
    BBC will be transmitting FTA via a satellite not owned by Sky.
    Sky is just one provider of HD Satellite equipment that can be used to watch the WC in HD. There are others too.

    The only reason for them to have any discussion with Sky is whether it appears on the Sky EPG
     
  10. paul1967

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    could the SKY stb block the channel ie not able get to the frequency
     
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    Lets hope we don't go to extra time or penalties then :oops:
     
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    But when they mention satellite, how would the average consumer assume anything but Sky? They are probably prevented from mentioning companies by name as that would be promoting commercial services, which the BBC are not permitted to do.

    Just how many satellite services are there in the UK running HD?
     
  13. loz

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    But the point is they didnt mention Sky. They have not promoted Sky.
     
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    I know, but they did mention satellite. Who do you think they are referring to when they mention satellite if not Sky?

    EDIT: And finally confirmation that it will be on SkyHD:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4841620.stm
     
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    The quote I saw was for "2 hours of new programming" not "2 hours of HD" which might mean simulcasts of Eastenders etc.

    The rest of the time they might show repeats of previously air shows like "Planet Earth" (but in HD this time). I hope so anyway.
     
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    so does this all mean i will be able to watch the world cup in HD, but i will still have to pay £299 (far too expensive IMO, £199 would have been acceptable)
    and what ever on top of that for the channels in HD?
     
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    Right it's definatly a FTA box for me, stuff sky :clap: :clap:
     
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    Cant see where the BBC have confirmed that the World Cup will be available via a FTA box. I'm not even sure if they have agreed to show it on the T-Drive
     
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    Oh for gods sake come on.. you can hardly miss that info on here
     
  20. andrew markwort

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    Let's just get a reality check here:

    (1) a lot of the programmes that are being shown are HD broadcasts of stuff not originally recorded on HD equipment - so at best we'll be seeing a high definition broadcast of a lower definition product

    (2) where stuff is HD from start to finish it's at the moment concentrating on a minority interest (sorry football fans, but for every one of you getting damp knickered at the thought of 22 overpaid apes and closet cases kicking a ball around a field there are two others finding something more exciting to do - like watching paint dry)

    (3) the programmes being offered in HD overall are dull, dull, dull (just take a look at what Sky is offering at the moment as proof). And in the case of Sky, you've not only to pay out £300 for the new decoder but then pay an extra tenner a month for a pretty poor set of channels, which as far as I can see for most of the time aren't showing native HD stuff.

    (4) you cannot record in HD (and thsi would seem to apply for the foreseeable future) so it's a case of watching it live (no matter how inconvenient the timing) or not watching at all

    (5) if you want an HD set-up to watch HD DVDs, there's a format war going on and unless you want to 'do a betamax' plumping for one system over another could be a very costly mistake.

    (6) The whole HD display looks great on well set up systems with very HD-friendly source material, but face reality, on day to day watching it ain't that 'mud wrestle your own grandmother to get one' marvellous for routine programmes.

    Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I've still to see a good reason to shell out a lot of money for a new system at this stage.
     
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    Err, so what is the Sky+ functionality being used for then ?
     
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    Exactly, you will always be able to record it to the hard disk. The way I've read it is that if you try and record away from the SkyHD unit to say a DVD the copy protection will stop you.
     
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    fta = no need for a skys offering then. dvb-s2 pci thanks :)
     
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    Not a big fan of the whole HD thing then, fair enough I get that. Me, I can't wait for the World Cup on my big plasma. And I can't believe you can't record in HD, is this true?
     
  25. loz

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    The Sky HD box will record HD to its HD :) if you want to time shift.
    But it cannot output HD to an external recorder if you want to back it up.
     
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    OK, never thought it would be possible to output HD from the SkyHD box to an external source other than a TV, so I'm not really too worried about that as I guess the age of affordable Blu-Ray/HD-DVD recorders is some years off yet.
     
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    Shows on BBC and BBCII that are yet to be confirmed to be made in HD right away or soon, are most likey to be:

    Top Gear
    Match of the Day
    DR Who
    BBC News service on BBC

    Anyone else what to guess what shows may make it to HD right away or real soon. But ones that have not be confrimed for HD buds.
     
  28. loz

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    Well we already know Planet Earth, Bleak House, Rome and Hotel Babylon were in HD.
     
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    There only going to be about 2 hours of HD stuff a day if that. I would not get too excited about what will be on during the trial. Its likely to be stuff like Planet Earth and programmes alike with major sporting events, Things like the Proms and stuff that the BBC make money from selling abroad.

    I wouldnt hold your breath for things like Top Gear etc. I think there is something on the BBC's website regarding the types of programmes and apart from the Football and the Tennis there wasnt anything which would keep me awake
     
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