Batman Begins Ultra HD Blu-ray Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Much appreciated, this might be the first UHD blu-ray I might buy.

      I put off watching this film for so long because of the bad taste left by Batman & Robin but once I watched it, I actually had to take a moment afterward to digest that I'd just watched something so utterly brilliant. Still the best movie in the trilogy in my opinion, I felt the two that followed lost the "Bladerunner"-esqe feel to it the made it feel like a true cross between a comic book and a reality grounded crime drama.
       
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      Great to read such a balanced and detailed review, thanks Cas :)
       
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      agree on the whole Cas

      glad I bought it as a substantial upgrade on the original BD on a decent display

      but absolutely cannot agree with Mr Warrior above - this is not the best of the 3 films. I love all 3 but the order of brilliance for me is TDK, TDKR and BB

      however being the worst of these 3 films still puts it a mile better than 99.5% of the rest of films made
       
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      I like all three the same for different reasons. Dark Knight seems quite different to the other two to me.
       
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      No words about the DNR? People are complaining about this a lot of places..
       
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      "but absolutely cannot agree with Mr Warrior above - this is not the best of the 3 films. I love all 3 but the order of brilliance for me is TDK, TDKR and BB"

      God I thought The Dark Knight was one of the most overlong, boring films I'd ever seen. There was nothing comic book about it, you could literally change the names of characters and it would just be a normal crime movie. Heath Ledger saved it for me, The Dark Knight without him is like Enter the Dragon without Bruce Lee-simply average.
       
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      you may be in a minority of one I suspect on here

      nothing comic book about it? I know New York / Gotham can be a bit traffic laden but I doubt if there are too many instances of Tumbler activity in the average day...

      heath ledger was excellent of course and jared leto never had a chance following in that role

      still as ever all opinions are as valid as any other - even if they are flat out wrong ;)
       
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      really did not notice it - don't some people just look for issues rather than just enjoy the movie?

      it is the best this film has ever looked - could it be better? - maybe - but I am still happy with it and the trilogy overall in UHD for that matter
       
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      Top stuff Cas!

      I have purchased all these on itunes, Have heard the IMAX shots are gone but hopefully the quality is there still (Personally I cannot see a difference in PQ yet with films I have watched)

      Will you guys start reviewing streamed versions? Would be good to hear your thoughts.

      Thanks again, Look forward to your review of the next 2 :thumbsup:
       
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      It's hilarious, the DNR isn't even subtle. To give a PQ score of 8/10 for Batman Begins whilst giving Inception 7/10 is absurd.
       
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      Totally agree on that one , sometimes the rating is very inconsistento_O
       
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      ???
      Did he ever go away...
      He played Sirius Black the previous year in HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban which is a fairly central role in that movie. For Batmans Begins it would be equivalent to the title being "Batmans Begins with Jim Gordon" :)

      PQ wise greyish blacks at times are a feature of the UHD, I found that more distracting than any DNR.
       
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      Again thanks for the review Cas,hurry up my US boxset :D
       
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      Just finished watching my UHD of Batman Begins, my first UHD film experience and I thought it looked great with some vibrant colours (the greenhouse at the beginning) along with very inky blacks, far better than the previous BD and not a bad film too ;)
       
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      Are you referring to the switching AR on TDK and TDKR? as the first film never had any IMAX footage.
       
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      Yes I am Indy, I can't actually remember if there were any AR changes in this one (it has been a long time) :)
       
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      Shame the audio wasn't upgraded to DTS X or Dolby Atmos, bur glad to hear that the picture quality has received a good upgrade
       
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      Why is it a shame the audio was updated ?
       
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      Because it wasn't (just two letters missing from it changes the entire meaning of the original post...)
       
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      Corrected original post
       
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      Why is it a shame the audio was upgraded then, thats what we want dolby atmos or DTS:X.
       
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      I'd be hugely wary of this. Dark scenes and dark films in general are sometimes borderline unwatchable with the HDR treatment. Just a ridiculously low ABL. Hopefully they've avoided that here.
       
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      I’m not too sure how much of a difference atmos or dts x really makes.

      I’ve got a pretty decent setup, the best sounding film I’ve heard in my room is probably Dunkirk. That is a 5.1 DTS soundtrack. My av receiver does a great job of up converting to dts neural x. I can’t really tell the difference between a dts x and a neural x sound track.
       
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      agreed the upmixing carried out by a modern receiver with an atmos speaker array makes a good 5.1 or 7.1 lossless soundtrack practically as good as an immersive soundtrack using neural X or dolby surround
       
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      Nolan isn't a fan of sound mixes above the 5.1 set up. 5.1 is the maximum audio channels that can be carried on a print of a film and since he is a celluloid purest, it's his preferred choice of audio mix. The stunning audio mixing on Dunkirk proves you can still achieve quite a bit on the old 5.1 mix.
       
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      Even the regular lossy DTS track on Dunkirk is great.
       
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      Agreed, the DNR results in some horribly smudgy faces and to give this a higher mark than Inception is downright bizarre.
       
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      Not sure if you're a comic book fan but I have read pretty much all of the Batman graphic novels that came out before The Dark Knight. The Batman to especially the Joker, was literally inspired or drawn directly from various Batman and Joker defining comic books and graphic novels. You can pinpoint the personalities of the Joker to specific graphic novels - the one where he always lies, the scene where he burns the pile of money, the anarchist in him. Some scenes that Nolan shot were directly from graphic novel panels.
       
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      Watched this for the first time in years the other day.

      Picture quality for me is fine given its a film from 2005. Been spoilt by some sublime 4k discs recently (dunkirk being a good example), but sounds like a great improvement from the blu ray (I had the DVD previously I think). The APL is fine on the dx902, it's a dark film but not too dark here. Some definite DNR going on but only one scene where I thought it looked a bit of a mess.

      Sound is spot on, no complaints at all.

      The film itself has aged spectacularly well. I was never overly enamoured by this originally, whereas TDK is one of my favourite ever movies. Going back to it after all this time I appreciated it a lot, lot more. Its superb. It's actually incredibly well paced, something I don't remember giving it credit for first time around. Perhaps it's seeing the origin story in the context of what Nolan's Batman subsequently becomes in the latter 2 films, rather than off the back of some dire earlier campy franchise movies.

      Anyways it's great, and looking forward to the 4k reruns of the next two now!
       

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