Bathroom renovation woes...

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  1. KyleS1

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    Long story short, we had a leak a while ago that was rectified at the time but was another nail in the coffin for renovating a bathroom (that we inherited from the previous owner) that is long overdue.
    I'd like to gut the whole thing and start again but I've not really got the money, so looking for ideas to save some money (easy stuff to DIY) and also recommendations of decent brands for the shower, bath, sink and toilet. The stuff we have now is from The Bath Store, which I've heard is cheap Eastern European rubbish, and that is backed up by my experience of using it.
    Decent brands and saving money don't tend to go hand in hand, but there's no point going to all this effort and replacing rubbish with rubbish.
    Any experts out there with some words of wisdom to help out a fellow AVFer?
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    I'm no expert but the stuff I bought 6 years ago has lasted well apart from a dripping tap and a cracked bath you might have seen in another thread.

    I sourced everything myself for half the cost that B&Q wanted to supply their own stuff then got a family friend to fit it for a good rate

    The toilets and bath were ideal standard alto range IIRC
    The taps were Bristan Prism range
    The Basins were Bauhaus
    The shower was Moretti from Screwfix
    The furniture/basin cabinets were B&Q Cooke and Lewis
    I got all the tiles from a local tile supplier and the decorative pattern tile was B&Q
     
  3. KyleS1

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    Thanks. My plan is to source the stuff myself or through my plumber if the price is right. I'm not going to use one of those bathroom places.
    Just after some good brands for all the bathroom kit. I think someone else recommended Bristan stuff as well.
    I wish I had a family friend who could do this stuff. I know most trades but not plumbing or tiling.
     
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    Thought @Wahreo might chip in. :)
     
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    Which type of sink and toilet are you looking at?

    I would need more specifics before I can make recommendations.

    In terms of price and quality, I think you'll struggle to beat Grohe.

    I've never really understood the hatred towards Bathstore. I think the chinaware they sell is really good quality.

    I've been buying from QS supplies recently.

    All the decent brands for probably the best price on he internet.
     
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    Sometimes I do reply, sometimes I just can't be bothered.

    You have to remember how repetitive a lot of it is and that sometimes I like to switch off:)
     
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    No pressure, it was more me hoping you would comment than anything else. :)
     
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    At the moment we have a hidden cistern (with a toilet that is near impossible to find a seat for due to odd shape), sink sunk into a worktop and a pear shaped bath with rainwater shower and separate removable head. The flush is knackered on the toilet, the sink can't hold any water with the plug in, the bath seems to have the temp controlled by the shower, but when bathing kids, the screen folds back over the shower controls and the temp control is fooked on the shower. To be fair, the quality of the actual units is fine, it's the other bits that don't seem to last.
    As for what we want, the room isn't the biggest but happy to completely remodel. Would rather a normal toilet, normal shaped bath but want to keep a rainwater shower with separate head.
     
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    Does anyone have any experience with those acrylic panels that replace tiles around the shower?
     
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    We refitted our ensuite about 6 years ago. Everything came from Bathstore... not had any problems at all with any of the kit.

    If you find a good enough plumber and tiler then there shouldn't really be any problems with using bathstore.

    ...or maybe I've just been really lucky with the stuff from bathstore.
     
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    We have the panels and I love them no messy grout
     
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    That is what I am thinking. Which company did you use? Did you install them yourself?
     
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    I'm sure it's not all bad. But ALL the stuff I have from the previous owner is faulty in some way. However, I don't know how old it all is.
     
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    It was a local company More than Baths Doncaster did the design and fit. WP_20170110_002.jpg
     
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    Those are in the shower cubicle. I have these on the ceiling...
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    you can do it reasonably if you're prepared to have a go, I did mine about 10 years ago including turning the bath round as the original was a non standard size and nothing would fit the way it was.

    pre soldered copper joints and push fits have made it much easier to DIY, it's not the first one I've fitted but it's the first time altering pipework, nothing leaked

    you still have to take your time and have some skill in the DIY department, it's the tiling that takes the time but plan it out rather than just sticking them on the wall and buy a wet electric tile cutter and it's easier.

    also we have an ensuite so the bathroom being out of action for weeks wasn't such a problem, if you have a family and it's your only shower etc then it needs to be done fast so it's either take a holiday or get somebody in
     
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    I encourage DIY with Bathrooms.

    For every DIYer that does a fantastic job, there's a dozen that do a poor job meaning more work for me.
     
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  18. KyleS1

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    I am fully aware of my DIY limitations, so would never take on something I don't think I could do. Plumbing is one of things that I wouldn't risk. I'm going to get my local plumber round for a quote to see how much I'm looking at.
    @Wahreo that QS supplies site has some good prices. Thanks for the pointer.
     
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    No probs

    Let me know if you'd like some advise on what to buy.
     
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    I think this is the route I am going to go for. At the moment my whole bathroom is tiled, but I will be removing those and getting the whole room replastered. I prefer non tiled walls, so will paint the room and try and add these panels around the shower. I hate dirty grout, and no matter how hard you try, it always gets dirty.
     
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    Thanks. I need to get my plumber to see what stuff I need as I guess you can't just buy any old thing. I'll come back to you when I know the details. :thumbsup:
     
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    Posting a pic might bring up some ideas......

    Just like our master did and he got some decent advise.
     
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    I'm not at home, but this is the picture on the listing when we bought the house.
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    That towel radiator is strange, I think it comes on with the hot water rather than the heating, as it has a pipe that goes up through the ceiling directly into the water tank.
     
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    Very crudely, this is the shape of the bathroom...
    Presentation1.jpg
     
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    And I made the mistake of showing this to my wife yesterday and this is what she wants... :D
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    I would quite like it like this so we can have a mirror by the sink. Not sure how much additional plumbing would be required though as we have a shower pump in the AC that feeds the shower which is on the AC wall.
    Presentation2.jpg
     
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    Where does the soil and vent pipe go?

    Have you not thought about swapping the WC and Basin round and having the mirror above the Basin on that wall?
     
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    It is directly behind the toilet.
    That is an option to do that I guess.
     
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    It's behind the toilet but where does it go?

    Is there an external pipe or does it drop straight down into a kitchen or cloakroom?

    I'm wondering if there is an AAAV within the furniture or looking at the height of he plinth, it could run to the right.
     
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    It goes out the wall to the outside, then diagonally down through a rear extension (boxed in).
     

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