basic 5.1 surround for ps3

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  1. alan1958

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    My 15yr old son wants a basic 5.1 surround for the ps3 in his bedroom. i looked at the Samsung HT-X30R on play .com, but it really is just a shot in the dark!!
    I would be really pleased for any advice
    Thanks
     
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    ive got 5.1 in my lounge with my denon thats now worth around £500 and its great

    is your point how can it be done cheaply

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    is it any good

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    will the system you mentioned work well
     
  3. alan1958

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    Thanks for the reply.
    I'm really just looking for advice on buying a surround system for the ps3 - if anyone has done it,- does it sound any good?,what will it cost me?
    Ta
     
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    I have that Logitech one it works brilliantly with my PS3 it has two optical inputs so i can connect my PS3 and Tv to it. I find that playing the PS3 with this on its bloody loud:D Playing RFOM online you can hear gunfire behind you gives you an idea of when people are close by and are shoting at you. I recommend it.

    Another good thing is the rear speakers are wireless, which means you don't have a mass of speaker cable across the room, the rear speakers have there own power supply they each have to be plugged in to the mains.
     
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    i bought the denon system you linked above, on Saturday for £250, i connect my PS3 and DVD via optical and it sounds fantastic. It certainly adds a new dimension to gaming and movies.

    i can whole heartedly recommend this for £250 :thumbsup:

    great build quality aswell :smashin:
     
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    I read that the rear wireless speakers on the logitech interfere with Wi-Fi, causing connections to slow right down apparently - whats your experience of that timus?
     
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    Any amp with optical inputs will be suffice. You can get a half decent sony system with amp and speakers which will do the job. If you buy an all in one system make sure you can add inputs via optical and not just coaxial.

    I have my PS3 connected to a denon amp via optical and it does sound good in games and on DVDs. Like all things depends on how much you want to spend
     
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    Just wondering how to link up more than two optical devices to the Denon or Logitech. The Denon has 2 inputs, but I have 3 optical devices (DVD, PS3 and Humax 9200T) Do you have to buy a switch box for this? Are there ones that will avoid having to manual switch between them?
     
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    I use a two way manual switch for my PS3 and 360. There is also a three way one available. Maplins sells them. The only possible automatic device I can think of is the Joytech AV centers. However there seems to be one or two models people have mentioned here that have had issues with their consoles. I think the 540c was one of them. There might be other solutions I'm not aware of.
     
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    Hmm maybe a system with two opticals is the best bet then.
     
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    which denon you looking at my denon amp has 5 optical inputs and some(cant remember how many) co ax inputs.
     
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    Its this one The Gooner.

    http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/denon_dht1356xp.shtml

    Its a toss up between that one, and the Logitech Z-5500 or Z-5450. The Z-5450 has two optical ins, but less power than the Z-5500.

    BTW u must be an Arsenal fan? I worked for Arsene Wenger last year - great guy, really friendly, I didnt manage to meet any of the players tho, would have been great to meet Henry! :(
     
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    Do your DVD player and Humax not have coaxial outputs as well as optical ?
     
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    My DVD player is a DK digital DIVX player, it seems to have loads of audio outs on it including coaxial. The Humax has SPDIF (but it looks like an optical port)?

    Im thinking it would be nicer to use optical all round really, wont that be the best quality?
     
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    I was in the same situation as you and after looking on the internet for a cheap surround sound I eventually found an acoustic solutions d1333 model on ebay for £89.99 with a RRP £189.99 in argos. The person selling them had 50 copies of them brand new. I bought one along with a digital optical cable from maplin and have got perfect 5.1 dts and dolby digital sound from them. Remember if you buy individually a set of speakers are going to set u back a £100 and a decent amplifier with hd input will cost bout £350.
     
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    Quality wise digital coax and digital optical are the same. I have tried both on my DVD player and they sound the same. If the DVD player has a coax digital out you can use that and then use optical for the Humax and the PS3.
     
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    Thanks Moogle - Im not entirely sure if the Z-5500 is for me, because my room is only medium size and i might find it hard to keep the sub 60cm away from any electrical equipment. Maybe the more compact Z-5450 would be best, or the Denons, but theyre quite a bit more expensive, and I dont really want a FM radio!
     
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    Hmmmm - I remember when I first installed my 5.1 system - started off as a small idea, but things soon got out of hand and ended up costing me about £2000... The cables alone cost me several hundred pounds... (You will never get decent cables with any of these all in one systems...)

    My advice to you, given that it's only for your son's bedroom, is to set yourself a strict low budget and get a second hand good quality 5.1 setup. You can buy really good used amps and speakers these days really cheap - alot of this stuff would have cost a fortune when they were new and still sound amazing.

    Also - Most sound equipment sounds better with age (speakers especially need to be used 'alot' before they loosen up and reach their 'sweet spot'), so you shouldn't be afraid of buying good quality used equipment.

    I have to say, I'm not a big fan of these cheap, small speaker, all in one 5.1 systems that seem to be everywhere... They tend to lack in power, capability and quality - if you're on a tight budget, I think it's much better to buy used quality seperates...

    You need to make sure that the amp supports DTS aswell as DD 5.1 and you should get one that literally has as many inputs as you can afford...
     
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    Amps don't usually come with speaker wire since the whole idea of buying seperates is so you can choose the components and accessories you want.
     
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    Wow that looks pretty cool. I like the way it matches the PS3 design wise.

    EDIT [​IMG]

    If you find any reviews can you post them here. :)
     
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    yes and yes, im very happy with it, i had a sony htss1000 before i bought the denon (this had to go back as it did not work out of the box) the build quality is 100 times better, have not cranked it up really loud as my neighbours would moan but it did not distort one bit at the reasonably high level i did have it at.

    for £250 i am very happy with it :)
     
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    I was after some 5.1 as well, not just for gaming but for movies as well. To keep things simple i use the PS3 for DVD so only one connection there. That might give you a clue as to how concerned I am about quality; I want it to sound good, but sounding great isn't necessarily an issue, I watch maybe one DVD a week, if that, so price is going to drive the purchase.

    I guess the PS3 doesn't have a preamp or anything to power the speakers, so I'd need a dedicated amp with optical in, so that sorts out the game/DVD side. To get 5.1 out of TV would i need anything extra? I have a Tosh 32wlt66 and have NTL as well, although they're p!ssing me off so that might dissapear soon! I guess the connection to the TV isn't too pressing, i don't think the news really warrants surround sound.

    is there anything closer to the £100 mark? I like the idea of wireless back speakers to avoid cabling under the carpet but realise the budget limit. If someone could let me know exactly what i'd need (amp, speakers, sub, cabling etc) then i could sort myself out.

    And while i'm on the subject, i have an amp running from my CD player. obviously this is phono so 2 speakers, but i guess it could be replaced by the 5.1 amp? these must have analogue inputs as well as digi.
     

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