Bank Holidays

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  1. When In Rome

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  2. Barbs77

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    Can Companies afford them? But who doesn't want more holidays.
     
  3. aVdub

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    hahaha Labour and it's say anything to get people to vote for them eh :facepalm:
     
  4. Doug the D

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    I know. But it's almost as if there's a general election coming up and Labour are perhaps chasing votes by promising extra days off :rolleyes: - As you also say, how are we as a nation going to actually fund this idea?
     
  5. Barbs77

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    Maybe a test, How well do you know your patron saint....
    Happy St George's day.
     
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  6. nheather

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    Interesting whether they would change the law to revise the minimum entitlement. Currently, in the UK you are entitled to a minimum of 28 days paid leave if you work 5 or more days per week. Note that if you work less than 5 days the amount is pro-rated, but if you work more it is not.

    Also note that a company does not have to give you bank holidays off, they just have to make sure that you get 28 days in total minimum.

    Now have labour said that if we get the extra 4 days bank holiday then the statutory minimum will rise to 32 or will it stay at 28 or is it unclear.

    Cheers,

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  7. mij

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    I think we have the fewest in Western Europe.
     
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    Since strictly we have 0 - see above, employers are not obliged to let you have those days off. But they are built into our minum total package which is 28.

    If you look at total days per country we may not be the worst in Europe, but probably are because I think the 20 days minimum might be an EU directive.

    Here is a map showing the national holidays.

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    As you can see, even if you say that we have 8 it is still the lowest in the EU.

    Cheers,

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    If Labour then it will be funded by borrowing and borrowing.
     
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  10. When In Rome

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    To be fair, I'd forgotten it - I had to ask the dragon.
     
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    Interesting point, especially for someone as I who works shifts and of course bank holidays when rostered in. Just saying four extra bank holidays without the specific details in practice is a very poor show.
     
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    Reducing the 350+ million we give away in foreign aid to countries like Pakistan could be one way of doing this (Pakistan have nuclear weapons..) We give away just shy of 350 million to countries like Ethiopia as well so they can finance girl bands using the money government "donates". There is plenty of ways in which the bank holidays can be funded.
     
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    Can't see many contractors celebrating the opportunity to lose another four days pay.
     
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    Does anything actually stop them working/billing?
     
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    They managed to escape the NI hike that all the permies got lumbered with.

    I took a £800 salary hit to pay to contribute to SERPS pension that I am not entitled to and won't receive.

    Cheers,

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    Can't speak for everyone but I've always been prevented from working Bank Holidays.

    Not sure what that's got to do with Bank Holidays, other than their four days pay probably exceeds your £800 if we're playing Top Trumps? ;)
     
  17. imightbewrong

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    It will vary by arrangement, but there is nothing particularly stopping it. I always billed for whatever work I did.
     
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    Ahhhh capitalism we work more hours than a medieval peasant but at least we have more trinkets [emoji106]
     
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    So you think the Labour are going to pay your wages for those extra days?



    Labour will once again fudge up the small business' in the UK.
    The have some superb ideas that I think everyone would agree with, the problem is not everyone stops and thinks it through properly.
     
  20. The Dude

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    Between this and the £10 minimum wage idea, it becomes clear Labour have resigned themselves to defeat in the upcoming election and are merely trying to stave off any threat from the Libs by trying to steal some of their student voters. :)
     
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    £10 minimum wage would put me out of business.
    I only turn over around half a million a year, profit for the last 3 years was £12, £26k and £16k.

    £10 an hour would cost me £20,380 extra each year.

    My rates have gone up £7,000 this year alone, which once again me and my wife have taken a pay cut to swallow it.
     
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    I'm always up for more time off work, but this isn't feasible and would cripple the economy. What he doesn't tell you is he will probably abolish 4 other bank holidays as well. I can't vote for someone who is so desperately trying to get votes at any cost. Plus he is a pacifist. I ain't a Tory supporter but I can't vote labour while Corbyn is in office either.
     
  23. Ste7en

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    "Public holidays in the UK are non-working holidays, which is partially compensated by the fact that workers are entitled to 28 days of annual leave, the highest rate in Europe."

    Stop moaning and get back to work you workshy bugger! :)
     
  24. mij

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    Blame big business. they want the minimum wage as it helps to get rid of businesses like yours helping them to make even more profit whilst their minimum wage employees are subsidised with working tax credits and the like. This then allows the politicians to claim that they have done an astounding job in getting unemployment down to record levels making it a win win situation :thumbsup:

    If I was you I would be hoping even asking for the minimum wage to be higher as it may end up benefiting you ;)
     
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    That is not correct. Even when considering the combined paid holidays, the UK is still at the back of the queue.

    20160217_Paid_Leave_Ind (2).jpg

    Cheers,

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  26. gizlaroc

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    You're probably right.

    Voting Labour is a lifestyle choice these days, I got seriously annoyed on Saturday night when I hear two couples talking about tax credits. Both saying they don't know what they would do without them.

    One of them said she is not going back to work as she has done 10 years as a teacher.
    But that is a lifestyle choice, just because she is well educated, has a nice house and a nice car etc. doesn't make them any better than any other benefit scrounger imho.
    They couldn't see this of course.



    The other couple saying they are now taking a tiny wage from their business and getting topped up to £22k which they can afford to live off as they have cleared their mortgage. This is just as bad as far as I am concerned.

    Now these are middle class, well educated people, but they are taking what is being offered.

    I could do what both of them are doing but I wouldn't as I have some morals.

    But something really isn't right with the system when couples who have been earning close to £100k between them are deciding not to work.
     
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    Nothing to do with Bank Holidays as such. Just responding to the comment about contractors not liking the extra public holidays - I was just pointing out that they just dodged the NI hike bullet so they can take some comfort from that.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    I don't get a lot of Corbyn's ideas but some I agree with, same as the Tories. There is probably some of UKIPs I agree with. To be honest I will vote for the local MP I like rather than the leader. This is one of the things wrong with our so called democracy. It should be 2 separate votes. One for your local MP and one for Prime Minister.
     
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    Agree with you here I could have claimed tax credits while my wife wasn't working but I didn't because I just about coped (albeit on credit for at least 3 years). Going back to your point about the £10 minimum wage I think it's doable. It would take a big economic shift but if everybody had to pay a minimum wage that high prices would have to go up all along the chain. The poor would still not be able to afford the luxuries but the chancellors coffers would be sustantially increased with extra tax and VAT. The only sticking point is the rest of the world China will always make it cheaper because they employ slave labour with no minimum wage.
     
  30. outoftheknow

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    I'm confused. The quote was from the previous graphic you posted. The second one shows 20 dAys plus 8 public holidays. Which is correct?
     

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