Bank holiday decorating woes

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  1. shodan

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    So what are you doing this weekend and what has gone right and what has gone wrong?

    Over the last few weeks I have divided the master room into two rooms so the kids have their own room each. We've moved into their old room, which needs everything doing from the floor to the ceiling.

    However, downstairs WC cloakroom needs painting, as does the hallway to the back door.

    Yesterday evening I sanded it all down and folded some holes and gaps etc.
    Each wall was painted about 7 years ago.

    All went swimmingly well except for one wall where an area about the size of an A4 page flaked off!

    So I've been stripping that wall back to plaster because I would never be able to make it look right otherwise.
    Next will be a PVA mix then back to painting.
    Also fancy making up some furniture to go in there to hold toilet rolls, mirror and a hand towel.

    And there are a load of pipes I need to box in...
    This morning I painted the whole lot with one coat of Dulux emulsion as an undercoat.
     
  2. mjn

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    No decorating, eventhough there is a long list. Just CBA today. Maybe next weekend.
     
  3. 27neth

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    Why the pva mix?

    John..
     
  4. shodan

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    Not good enough, get on it ya lazy fecker, if I have to suffer, so should you! [emoji23]
     
  5. shodan

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    Seal the plaster before painting. Why, should I not do that?
     
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    I'm not a decorator but I'm sure you don't Pva before painting. Water down the emulsion for bare plaster.

    John..
     
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  7. shodan

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    Ok cool, I'll do some reading on it. Thanks matey.
     
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    I'd love to but erm......i've already cut the grass, and got rid of some rubbish from the back garden.
     
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    Yes, just watered paint for bare plaster, otherwise known as the "pissy coat"
     
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    Then, my god man, put ya feet up in front of the telly and crack open a cold one... [emoji12]
     
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  12. mjn

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    Little 'un at her Gran's, GF up the horse yard....my feet are up, film playing. And working on a pack of 6 mini egg cakes.
     
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    Ah, jogged a memory, but isn't it a mist coat, not a pissy coat?
     
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    I've always known it as a pissy coat?
     
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    So glad I started this thread!
    I fudgeing love avforums!
     
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    I don't water down, I just buy a super cheap white emulsion that goes straight on. The cheap stuff is so thin anyway it works fine and saves messing with consistency. I tried painting properly with it once, and after 5 coats I gave up and used some proper stuff :laugh:
     
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    You know what they say, 'never do today what you can put off until next weekend'.
     
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    I've found it a lot easier to splash watered down pva around the walls rather than watered down paint.
     
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    PVA is water soluble so once paint touches, it dissolves so a waste of time in the first place.
     
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    PVA is a disaster for lots of things.

    Never use it for tiling or decorating.

    Excellent for plastering though.

    I always use a mist coat on new plaster.
     
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    Once dried it's very water resistant. So long as it's fully dried it won't dissolve just because you paint it. You shouldn't use it where it will continually be damp though.
     
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    I'm no expert on PVA and painting but part of the reason you should never use it with tiling is because it becomes 'live' again when it gets wet.
     
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    Spent 4 hours yesterday with a chainsaw in the garden, I think I need some skips.

    Spent all day today degreasing a kitchen, years of deep fat friers. raked all the tile joints out earlier and regrouted tiles and floor tiles.

    Downside I'm nearly out of beer and the dam grout won't go off so I can finish of and go to bed as I'm up at silly o'clock .
     
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    And I plugged in the Oppo to a very old non hdmi tv ( Hdmi to rgb cable )get picture but no sound, I do not want to unpack the amp .

    Any suggestions ? Otherwise good weekend on the DIY.
     
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    You don't need the grout to go off, as soon as it's dried on the tiles polish it off.

    J0hn..
     
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    I tend to wait until it's set slightly before wiping. I imagine that as it's a re-grout, it needs to set almost fully otherwise wiping it with a sponge will pull out the new grout and expose the old.
     
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    I feel everyone's pain while I relax in the Canaries in the sun, no decorating for me.
     
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    Not jealous at all... :D
     
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    Thanks for the help guys.
    So, recap..
    Last night I sanded down the walls to the cloak room toilet and the hallway by the back door and sugar soap washed it all then filled in damage and defects.

    This morning, sanded down the filler and wiped down the walls again then got on with painting.
    As you know, first coat went on all over but then came away in a large patch on one wall. (Woe).

    So I had to get all the paint off that wall. The only part that came off easy was the problem area.
    It had 3 coats of paint on and I ended up using my wallpaper steamer.
    Took a good hour and a half to get it all off.

    2 mist coats and then I painted the hallway and when that was done I did the toilet walls.
    That steamed wall will need at least one other coat, maybe 2. So I think I'll give the other walls at least one more coat.

    I've also bought some timber and MDF because I've got 3 lots of pipes that I want to box in but I didn't get that far today.
     
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    It is a re grout its finally gone off enough to work it, I think I maybe a tad tired in the morning
     

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