All companies conduct extensive market research, so the only conclusion I can draw is that most consumers don't care.Despite this multi-room capability there are no expansion options, which unfortunately means you can’t add a separate subwoofer or wireless rear speakers for the surround channels.
This trend is becoming very annoying. I am not sure why companies choose not to feature a dedicated sub-out or the ability to add wireless rear speakers.
Although for once, B&O have priced this much more reasonably than their usual 2K+ entry point.Overpriced style-over-substance as usual from B & 0.
Although I'm sure it will find favour with the 'I know nothing about AV, but I do have an Amex Black Card' brigade.
All companies conduct extensive market research, so the only conclusion I can draw is that most consumers don't care.
That's quite sad. The only soundbar that ticks all my requirements is Klipsch 54 but looks like it might never be released.
Its not too hard to feature a dedicated sub-out.
In the end, many of these companies need to address more than just a niche.
And while many of use here may not like it, things like full surround systems are seemingly a good deal less popular with regular consumers than they used to be.
And again, while many mid / low priced sound bars are (a) not very good, and (b) would benefit from a sub, the Stage reviewed here is very powerful, and doesnt need a sub even in large lounges.
B&O will likely make a more fully featured similar product with expansion capability, for those with other B&O speakers wishing to create a surround system.
Not every product is intended for your (or my) specific use case.
If you listened to it, you see why it doesnt need one.I do get you but not having a dedicated sub-out when sub is excluded is simply foolish and shortchanging IMO.
If you listened to it, you see why it doesnt need one.
Its a stand alone product.
Some sound bars are, some aren't.
Judge it for what it is trying to achieve, not what you would like it to, which would be in another product category.
From what I understand from dealers, and given its relatively modest B&O price, its been selling very well (again for a B&O product volume), and as such they'll be feeling anything but foolish.
As for value for money and short changing, if I ever needed a sound bar I'd consider it, especially as it outperforms some similarly priced bar/sub combo's from Sonos for example. And also looks a hell of a lot nicer.
It's a great album. Have you heard North Marine Drive, Ben's first solo album from 1983? It's similar, although obviously from the perspective of a younger man.
I agree, a sub-out would be a nice addition for anyone wanting to beef-up the bass. Although it goes surprisingly low for a single-box system.That's quite sad. The only soundbar that ticks all my requirements is Klipsch 54 but looks like it might never be released.
Its not too hard to feature a dedicated sub-out.
Indeed, and it may not be for you.As a bass addict owning a mammoth ULF capable SVS sub, I don't go further if the soundbar doesn't come with a dedicated sub-out unless it comes with a powerful sub.
I heard Tuefel soundbars are good but they don't feature Atmos.
The only soundbar that fits my bill is Klipsch 54
1. Wooden casing
2. 130 cms wide (better soundstage)
3. Ability to add wireless rear speakers
4. 12 inch wireless sub
5. Dedicated sub-out.
I would happily buy this B&O had it included a sub-out.
I’ll listen to it! After hearing places I know of in Hull on the first track I had to google him again, and I wasnt surprised to read that him and Tracey both went to Hull university. North marine drive is a road in Bridlington that overlooks the north promenade and beach, and it’s also the album cover.It's a great album. Have you heard North Marine Drive, Ben's first solo album from 1983? It's similar, although obviously from the perspective of a younger man.
Personally I’d rather have a soundbar without a sub. If it’s a good one and I want to simplify equipment, (and let’s face it that’s the whole point of these), then not having to worry about placing a sub in a lounge makes everything so much easier. These are basically to improve the sound coming from the tv and save space. i think the problem is when folks start expecting them to be a complete home theatre replacement! For the record, they aren’t.
And that’s exactly my point. They‘re a compromise. Whether we like it or not. You compromised your kit because of your other half. I compromised my own music system because I felt it was taking over our lounge. A soundbar or all in one music system like mine is always going to be convenience and compromise over a traditional multi box/ multi speaker system. Thankfully they’re getting better and better. The biggest problem is as soon as they get over a grand folks start complaining about the price!!!Soundbars are indeed looked at as HT replacements due to various constraints at home. You were once getting 2 channel sound which then became 5.1 and now we are talking Atmos.
I had a proper 7.1 setup but sold most of my speakers due to constant complaining from the other half. go. If we get bigger homes in the South East of England for the money we pay, I would have easily retained my speakers. Alas, I had moved on and still waiting for a reasonable replacement in a smaller form factor. Klipsch 54 is the only ticking all my boxes but looks like it will never be released.
Regarding market research...
It pays to keep in mind that B&O are in fairly horrendous financial shape, so maybe they've cut back on expenses like market research?