Banana plugs dont fit in speaker nor in receiver

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    Dear HiFi Experts,
    I just got some really nice Triangle Banana Plugs with my Triangle Elara LN 07 but they dont fit in the speakers and neither in the Denon 4300.
    What am I doing wrong :) ?
     

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    I have taken out the little plastic head of the receiver input (you can see it on the photo at the side) and the speaker screw connector is screwed off to show you where the plug "should" fit in.
     
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    Do they fit if you apply a very gentle bit of pressure? Some plugs actually close in a little as they slide into the connector. Obviously don't force it and break anything though!
     
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    Hi punctilio,
    Thanks for your reply. I dont see them fitting in. I have applied lots of pressure.
    I have undone the speaker connector screw just so I can really push and see but it doesnt seem to work. I thought it would be a standard measurement :)
     
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    Actually I really pushed hard and the thing went it but I cant do that with the receiver. Should I squeeze them together a bit?
     
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    Worth a try, as they are brand new, they may be a bit stiff. Should all be a standard size.
     
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    push harder, pretend it is the girlfriend and not the wife :)
     
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    Don't push any harder on the receiver!!! There is an inner lug you have to remove that isn't obvious! I had the same thing and googled it and found this out. The solution was to bend a paperclip into a hook/catch insert it into the hole and then pull outwards this will pull out a smaller inner piece of plastic.

    I think this was the video that made it obvious:
    Tip - Banana Plugs into AV Amp Speaker Wire...


    Why it's like this I don't know!!
     
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    He's taken those out (post 2).
     
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    Force is required. New plugs and better quality ones are more resistant. I find that twisting/rotating the plug while pushing in can often make it slightly easier.

    The electrical connection is made on those four sprung fingers, so they need to be a tight fit!

    You may need an accomplice to prevent the AVR from moving, if you can't get an arm round/over to do it on your own.
     
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    Looks like a bit in the speakers connection can come out also?
     
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    Some nonsense from an EU directive relevant to people wanting to stick the mains supply in them......
    We are best out of it......
    Grumble grumble, raa, raaa, bloody European bureaucrats, raa!!!
     
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    Other way round; the problem is people sticking the 4mm plugs in the crappily designed unshuttered euro mains sockets. So by blocking the sockets on receivers it theoretically makes the plugs redundant in the market.

    How about they legislate to not have death traps fastened to the walls instead? GRRRRRR
     
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    Chicken and egg I guess............ oh, and stupid people
     
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    Having to remove some plastic plugs from speaker terminals is okay with me if it reduces the risks of house fires. Sometimes more legislation can be a good thing.
     
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    It's not about the legislation it's more about the stupidity that someone would/could/may/might plug speaker terminals (clearly marked as such) into the mains socket on the wall!!!
     
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    Well, maybe, but it would be nice to prevent house fires, even if caused by stupid people.
     
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    I've seen a video (on the internet, obviously) of some idiot wrapping his old man in tinfoil and sticking it into the mains. (there was a bang, lights went out and a bit of screaming). Never underestimate stupidity. Still, proper power plugs like what we have in good old Blighty are what the euros should have, ones with an earth plug that you have to stick in to get the internal covers on the business sockets to slide out of the way. (I'm very impressed with the thought that went into the British plug spec, not like those Euro ones that are just 2 holes and a shrug)
     
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    Hmm, this thread has taken an interesting and unexepected turn.:D

    I've found no problem in pulling out the inserts on the back of my Denon using the wife's finger nails. I certainly get a better connection using banana plugs than trying to tighten the binding posts with arthritic fingers. On a 6200 they are so close together.

    I've kept the inserts in a plastic bag just in case an European with an odd fetish wishes to buy my 6200 in the future.:thumbsup:
     
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    And where do you keep the wife's fingernails during the interim???:D
     
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    Maybe not using Mono-price ? :rotfl:
     
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    Who left your door open?


    Monoprice are a USA concern and do not trade in the UK. Besides which, why monoprice when there are plenty of other affordable alternatives readilly accessible to customers in the UK.
     
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    From Banana Plugs to just Bananas in 24 posts.
     
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    Thanks for the irrelevant input, all a bit unnecessary...........!
     
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    What.................!!! ????
     
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