Ban people smoking in cars with Children

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  1. Curry Monster

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    Ban people smoking. Full stop.
    Much easier to police, much more effective...
     
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    No £££ in tax to Government - why it would never happen. :(
     
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    Don't be silly :rolleyes:

    If people want to smoke in cars with children in then who are we to tell them otherwise?
     
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    If the parents won't look out for their own children who will?

    Children are ignorant to health risks associated with passive smoking. Even if they were, Children are not able to speak up for themselves.
     
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    In general or in cars?
     
  7. eric pisch

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    The morale majority :smashin:
     
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    Why is it silly?
    Is smoking good for you, or anyone else? :confused:

    If, as seems to be the case, it is bad for you and those around you, why not simply ban it outright instead of pussyfooting around with suggestions like this...
     
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    Yup.

    And while we are it lets ban drinking, fatty foods, computer games (as they apparently turn all our kids into mass murderers), porn, and film violence too. Oh and then we can police the Supermarkets arresting mothers who dare to buy any food that might not be 100% healthy for their children. Far enough ?? .. Erm .. No hang on, lets ban driving too because just how many people die on the roads every year ??, oh and flying too because apparently people are so stupid that they think there is no risk in it and run around all shocked when a machine made from thousands of parts supplied by the lowest bidder actually crashes. Cant be too careful can we ?? .. we need to save people from themselves !! .. :eek:

    As a smoker I agreed with the ban in pubs etc etc. All for it, and while your comment didnt concern it I dont smoke in my car if my children are in it. But the simple fact is that if I want to smoke in a way that doesnt bother anyone else then I will, last time I looked we lived in a free country.

    Yes smokers cost the NHS money but the taxes on ciggies also pump cash into the system. Yet if you dare to criticise an obese person who thinks Fray Bentos is a food group and pie eating is an occupation then stand by for condemnation. As a smoker I am tired of the endless preaching on the subject.
     
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    Exactly.
    If the government had any balls it would simply ban it.
    Instead they would rather tell everyone how bad it is, whilst at the same time thanking them for their tax contributions.... Double standards?
     
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    Smoking in a car with children should be against the law, and this is coming from a smoker.

    Problem is these people are probably the same people who bring there kids up on junk food.
     
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    He is right, but where does this way of thinking and controlling end.

    Too many people already telling me what to think, believe, do, eat, drink, and generally interfering in my life.
     
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    Agree with the idea - but enforceable? No.

    Why stop at cars, what about in the home? Its still an enclosed space with limited amount of air. Of course you could just open a window....like you could in a car!
     
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    No we don't. We have thousands of laws designed to protect us from ourselves and each other. :lesson:

    I don't see why banning smoking would make us any less 'free' than we already are. or aren't...
     
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    Why ban it outright though, if people are considerate then smoking doesn't effect anyone bar the smoker:lesson:. I have about 3 a day. What about the people who stuff themselves with fatty foods and alcohol :rolleyes:
     
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    Depends what they are smoking. ;)
     
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    Just like drugs are so easy to police right?
     
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    Driving home from work the other day where i saw two adults (parents presumably) smoking in the front with the windows closed, with two toddlers strapped into their car seats in the back..
    Disgusting, uneducated people who don't deserve kids!
     
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    too difficult to Police ...I see people every day using their mobile phone, smoking is an addiction, so its going to be even harder

    cant see how it would work....

    ..its all small scale compared to DIY accidents around the home, which kill more than our roads ....so lets ban DIY - you need a licence to drive a ladder etc ;)

    /but of course, theres no stealth tax in that either :rolleyes:
     
  20. AJUK

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    It would be difficult to police, but making it 'against the law' would at least deter some.
     
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    Why is smoking in cars not banned whether there are others in the car or not?

    If you drop your cancer stick when driving, what do you do? Possibly cause an accident while you're flapping about trying to find it.

    And what about the zillions who use the open window as an ash tray? My mate's a 40 a day man, and the ashtrays in his car are spotless................
     
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    the argument they have against that, is where do you stop - ban eating? talking to the kids? touching the radio? etc ...it never ends

    the law is already in place, should you cause an accident by any of the above (inc smoking) its careless driving ....but proving it is another matter...mobile phones are easy - they just get your phone statement
     
  23. loz

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    Well drugs are easy to police.

    The fact that they don't put the resources in to do so is a different matter.

    But the illegality of it clearly does disuade a large number of people from taking them. As would a ban on smoking.

    Equally, I think some current drugs ought to be legalised, as they appear to be far less of a health risk than smoking.

    (I am not against people having fun....)
     
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    Good point. Your not allowed to eat or drink and drive as its deemed dangerous.
     
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    Just like speeding, talking on your phone in the car etc...


    If it's easy to police but they can't be bothered to put the effort in, what's the point of the ban? :confused:
     
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    is there actually a law that says you can not eat and drink (i dont remember ever seeing one) or is this just a case of the police perverting existing laws again like they used to with the radar detectors?
     
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    I thought it was law but I could be wrong.
     
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    they where doing people on mobiles for a long time but that only became the law a couple of years ago.
     
  29. loz

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    Well it does actually.

    Sure some people still speed and use their mobiles.
    But how many more would if it wasn't illegal?

    They recently reclassified a road by us from 40mph to 30.
    Everyone used to do 40, some did more...

    Now most do 30, and yes, some still do more.
    But overall it has been effective in reducing the average speed.
     
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    Surely using a thermal imaging camera would prove very effective if smoking in a vehicle. You can even get fire detection video cameras, which is all software based.

    Get spotted, fixed notice on your door step.
     

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