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Originally posted by Games Guru
MY GOD Dimmy,
I actually AGREE with something you have to say
Originally posted by Garrett
And how would fans of the Matrix have felt if Agent Smith had not been in the final part of the Matrix trilogy, or Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi?
Originally posted by FWA.jr
Dimmy. You are wrong.
No way do they want to put the 'scouring of the shire' at the end of the movie. It would kill it. So the only other real option to deal with Saruman is to kill him at the start of Return of the King. Which is perhaps more of an injustice to the book and would totally set RotK off on the wrong foot. Secondly, Lee's scenes are there and are to be used in the Extended edition, so its not a total loss.
And although I disagree with you when you say that Christopher Lee was the only real mystical element, thats not what these films are about. Well, a lesser element than more transcendant themes anyway. RotK is more about getting on your knees and crawling to the top of a god-damned mountain and doing what you've got to do. I cant stand obbseive fans of the books obsessing over every goddamn detail at the expense of the bigger picture in these films. My local cinema nearly had a triple homicide to deal with when on opening night I nearly lost my temper at three fans who groaned in agony, and out-stretched their arms to the screen as elves arrived Helms Deep.
Return of the King is a big book, bigger than the Two Towers. Like Sam and Frodo, they have to press on.
Um, yes it is. .. made more so if that's possible by the absence of the Scouring chapter.Originally posted by Dimmy
ROTK is about the content and story of the book, "getting on your knees and crawling to the top of a god-damned mountain" only takes up a very small proportion of the book, and isn't what the story is 'About'.
Originally posted by Garrett
So everybody now has to wait a year, have a DVD player and has to rent it or buy the DVD to see part of the story that should be in the film in the first place.
Actually you raise an interesting problem I'd overlooked with this sequence now removed .. there are already screen-shots in semi-official places showing Pippin stealing the Palantir, and also the "he's gone unchallenged long enough" comment from Aragorn in the trailer .. I wonder how Jackson proposes to suddenly magic the Palantir out of Orthanc now that it's not going to make its' appearance in the expected scene?Originally posted by deckard
However, what about Wormtongue throwing the palantir from Orthanc and Aragorn subsequently using it to challenge Sauron?
Originally posted by Dimmy
What on earth are you talking about? You're just disagreeing with me for the hell of it now.
I never said Christopher Lee was the only "real mystical element", read my post again. And I certainately don't have homocidal tendancies deriving from a reality-obsessive transgression of the books.
ROTK is about the content and story of the book, "getting on your knees and crawling to the top of a god-damned mountain" only takes up a very small proportion of the book, and isn't what the story is 'About'.
And I didn't suggest the 'Scourning Of The Shire' scene should be included, nor did I complain that the film was originally adapting the book so that Saruman would meet his demise at the start of the movie...
Again - I haven't the slightest as to why you directed your post at me.