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  1. richjthorpe

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    Hi Guys and Gals,

    I've got a problem with my back and wondered who I should go and see about it, doctor, physio, chiropractor (sp?), other ?!

    To give you a bit of background, my sister and my mum have both had back problems in the same region as I've got mine. It's related to my joints in my back and not muscular pain. I've always known that I put a lot of strain on my back as I don't always keep it straight when bending down to pick it up, so it could be a posture problem (Would going to a gym help this ?). The problem has started getting worse with the fact our new born isn't sleeping through the night just yet and so I've had been leaning over the cot putting more strain on my back.

    Anyway, there isn't anyreal pain but more discomfort at the moment but I don't want it to grow from this, so has anyone got any ideas of who I should see and maybe any tips on getting back back ?

    Cheers,

    Richie.
     
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    whats your age? back pain will always get worse as you get older, everyone will suffer from backpain as we didnt use to be upright and are still evolving into upright beings, but we will always have backpain due to our roots. if you look in a medical book you will see our spine isnt straight anyway it actually kinks in an s shape.

    id recommend yoga classes and wearing a back support most of the day (Not when you go to bed)

    Im not a doctor at all so my words are not gospel and i cannot say it wont do more harm than good, a chiropractor is a back specialist so yea ask them, they will probably recommend a change of diet too

    EDIT: Oh yea, get a firm bed and some proper pillows that support your head, do you sleep on your side or your back?

    I get back pain and when i got a firmer bed and decent pillows my back stopped acheing as much, i've also been taking Centrum A to Zinc for a few months now, and all my little twitches and pains that I thought were natural have gone :eek:
     
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    Hi Jago,

    I'm 27 but being 6'2" probably doesn't help either.

    Yoga sounds interesting, never have been that supple. I know what you mean about the firm bed, we were camping on Saturday night and the lilo had almost deflated over night. Just adds to the fact my back needs looking at.

    Do you pick out a chiropractor or do you get your doctor to recommend one ?

    Richie.
     
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    I'd recommend a physiotherapist, rather than a chiropractor. I've had back problems, and my physio worked wonders.

    There's something a little savage about the treatment of chiropractors, that makes me think they may not always be the best answer. Often, a physiotherapist will need to aply local massage to loosen up muscles, that have locked up to protect damage. Treatments vary, depending on the root cause, but overall, I'd say a physiotherapist is less likely to make matters worse.
     
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    I went to a chiropractor rather than a physiotherapist. I got the feeling that it was some kind of scam as my problem was better after three treatments but they had me in for a total of nine times bfore discharging me saying that I had to complete the course of treatment, even though they did the exact same thing to me week after week.

    Saying that though, there are few feelings more satisfying than when they crack your neck...
     
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    it would help to strengthen your abdominal muscles as they support the spine.

    posture is vital, especially when lifting, always bend them knees :)

    wearing a back support all day will actually weaken your back in the long run as the support takes some of the load, whereas without it your back / abs are doing the work

    a physio will give you stretches that will help

    what do you do for a living ? if desk work then you need to make sure the desk is set-up right for you ie ergonomics. I can provide plenty of info / links if this is the case, let me know
     
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    yea rich, being 22 n 6ft 4 i know how being tall affects your back, all the males on my side of the family are around 6ft 3ish we all have back troubles.

    my dad has major back troubles, and neck aswell, we all get it, he now takes yoga and says it feels better, i went to the gym and they told me I BADLY need to work on my flexibility lol.

    A physio may be a good idea, but back crackers are there for sorting your back out like scheripedists (SP?) are for your feet.

    just cause you feel good after 4 treatments doesnt mean your back on top form, a course is a course for a reason :p

    have a look around and see whats best, im sticking to my centrum it works wonders lol.

    give us feedback after you've tried out what your planning
     
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    I've had lower back pain before but I've generally found that it's related to the strength of the abdominal muscles so getting into the habit of doing a few sit ups daily sorted it out in no time. In a similar vein, getting to the gym and doing a few stretches/pushing some gentle weights should help with the rest of your back too. :)
     
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    Hi Moid,

    Would it help to strengthen my back muscles too as well as abs ? Hehe, yep, I know all of the 'bend at the knees with the back straight' stuff, but that's not possible when lening over a cot :)

    I think it really is posture that I need to work on. I'm not the kind of person that sits with a curved back and junched shoulders, but I do tend to take a relaxed aproach to sitting shall we say.

    What do I do for a living ? The AVForums are my life dear boy ! :D I'm an IT consultant during the week so I am sat in front of a PC all day.....unless I'm in the pub. The info/links would be really good thanks.

    Richie.
     
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    Sit ups - not good, stomach crunches much better. I do 20 minutes a day of stretching and strenghening follow a prolapsed disk a few years back. Get advice from a professional physio, through the health service, not the local gym.

    Chiropractor - no, no, no! I was nearly sick when I saw what they were doing to Mrs D. Charged a lot of money and left her physically worse off. Go to your doctor, get a physio reccomendation. Even if you have to pay.

    Where do you live? I can recommend one near me if that helps.
     
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    My mum and sister went to see chiropractors and they worked wonders for them. My mum at one point had to be taken in a wheelchair (Practise was only across the road) and she walked out a couple of hours later.

    Anyway, think a call to my doc will be the first port of call and see what she says. In the mean time, I best find out what my medical insurance covers.

    I'm in SW London Dr D, are you close ?

    Richie.
     
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    HSE back pain campaign
    http://www.hse.gov.uk/betterbacks/index.htm

    Backpain - good advice and info - contact information
    http://www.backcare.org.uk/index2.php

    Car ergonomics at Loughborough Uni-
    http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/cd/docs_dandt/research/ergonomics/biw/intro.htm

    Basic office ergonomics
    http://www.ergonomics4schools.com/lzone/office.htm


    Hope these help.


    I'm 6'4", and I can tell you for a fact that if you are over approx 6'2" you ain't deisgned for mate, so things aren't meant to fit you - just costs too much to fit the extremes of the population. That's part of the problem. I kneel at our baby's cot, but then my arms start to hurt..no easy solution :D

    'Core strength' is what you need to develop, can be done using swiss balls, stretches etc, but also basic weightlifting moves like deadlifts (starting v light of course). Think first thing is to see docto / physio, find out what is wrong, then start to put it right :thumbsup:

    Stu

    PS Just noticed, if it is joint related may help taking glucosamine / chrondroitin capsules, as they are building blocks for cartilage and joints. Will also help any other aches :smashin:
     
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    Contrary to poular opinion, firm mattresses are not always good for you.

    The best mattresses for back problems are the 'memory foam' mattresses (do a search on tempur mattresses or Dunlopillo mattresses)

    They can also be bought as additional layers for existing mattresses.

    We bought a fairly cheapie IKEA mattress that had a small layer of memory foam. My wife, who used to suffer from back problems, says they have disappeared since we switched.

    Chris
     
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    I have a problem with sciatica, and last time I checked it is a 9 month waiting list to see an osteopath.

    Losing weight will help if you are overweight, so going to the gym will help. Yoga is very good for posture as well.

    I haven't see a chiropractor so can't comment on that aspect, although I am lead to believe that chiropractry is based on impingement of nerves by bones and muscles.

    Have you got a problem with your feet? That might be a contributing factor to your back pain.

    See a doctor and get a referral.
     
  15. richjthorpe

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    Haven't heard of Sciatica but with a quick Google, I haven't got any pains in my legs at all.

    Not overweight and I would actually like to gain some weight but I can't get to the gym !
    Only that they smell according to my wife.
    Appointment booked for 8.40am tomorrow.

    Thanks for the advice guys, an update tomorrow will follow.

    Richie.
     
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    A few months ago I suffered the most horrendous back pain and excruciating pain in the right leg.


    I was over in Bangor, Northern Ireland at the time and thought5 I'd end up in the hospital at Dundonald, it was that bad.

    The guest house in Bangor, where I was staying, the owner their recommended me to a very good friend of his, a physiotherapist who helps Newtonards FC deal with injuries sustained.

    After suffering the pain for several days, he treated me for at least an hour and the following day I certainly felt the benefit.

    Back in Glasgow I waited several weeks for treatment on my return home, through the NHS, I eventually saw a physio, who reminded me of Yasser Arafat, still not her fault I suppose.

    I was told I'd be contacted in the future about a Back Class which I should attend.

    Since then I've been back over to Northern Ireland, love that place so much, I always try and get booked with my physio over there.

    If you get the right help, it certainly goes a long way in at least coping with this most awfulest of pains.
     
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    I find regular swimming (twice a week) helps my back. I think it's because it generally strengthens the muscles in the trunk/back/abdomen. Friends have commented that my posture improved after I'd been doing it for a couple of months.

    Cheers,
    Liam
     
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    Go and see an oestopath, and buy yourself a swiss ball, and strengthen your "core" muscles.
     
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    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the replies. To be honest, I think I should have just listened to you lot and not bothered with the doctor, all he did was confirm that it was only backache and nothing heredatory (sp?) and when I asked about preventatives gave me a couple of leaflets saying to do some gentle excercise that wouldn't cause pain.

    Think swimming is a good idea, I haven't been for a while and I'm sure my 8 month old would love it ! Does it matter which technique I use (Breaststroke, crawl, butterfly :) ?)

    Cheers again,

    Richie.
     
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    I just started off doing breast stroke with a little back stroke thrown in every now and then. Once I'd built up some stamina I added in front crawl every few laps and increased the ratio of front crawl to breast stroke. Eventually I was alternating laps of breast stroke and front crawl with the odd lap of back stroke. I do it for about 40 minutes on a monday and friday lunchtime in the local municipal baths.

    There possibly is a more efficient way to do it, but I found this worked for me and was easy to do. Just going and doing it is the most important thing.

    Cheers,
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    breaststroke puts more stress on the back because of the leg action, but if it doesn't make your back ache more then don't worry...
     
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    It's not the abs that you want to work on but the 'deep abdominals',they are a different muscle group and they are not usually exercised by every day movements or exercises - think of the muscles that you would use to stop a wee mid-flow. These groups of muscles act as a stabiliser for your lower spine.It takes a lot of practise to exercise these muscles so it may bring benefit to consult a physio on this one.
     
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    I spent thousands with osteopaths, chiropractors, etc. Tried acupuncture, reflexology as well. Paid to see a specialist as the waiting list was so long, after looking at the x-rays, he said it was osteoarthritis and physio would only give temporary relief. Now I have steroid injections into the joints in my lower back every year to get some relief.
    I believe it was driving for 20 years that caused a lot of the problems although my hobbies didn't help.
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