I think £250 is their RRP. And after seeing what the S4 look like i think i'm going to stick with the S3 for my surround setup. I prefer the look of them, and already own a pair of 602s3 so i can just buy another pair for the rears and then grab either the LCR60s3 or LCR600s3 for the centre speaker. Now i just have to decide which amp to power themThe S4s seem like right but made in china?? and price? might get the 601s. Better than these 16year old (i think) panasonics! I will haggle for them, Is 250 about right? thats what phase 3 hi fi has them for.