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B&W 602 s2 : 5.0 setup, large or small?

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by thestorm, Jan 29, 2002.

  1. thestorm

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    Hi all

    I'm in the process of setting up my speakers for a Denon AVCA 11SR.

    My front speakers are ProAc s125 a full size
    speaker and the center channel is a Pro Response cc1. The front setup looks something like this :
    http://www.proac-loudspeakers.com/prorescc.jpg

    My rear speakers are a little bit lower than ear level and are B&W 602 s2's on metal stands. This speaker is quite a large speaker compared to most rear speakers or as far as standmounts go.

    Here's a pic :
    http://www.bwspeakers.com/images/photoItem/dm602s2-21l.jpg

    My question is.

    Do I setup the rear and center as large or small?

    Is it small ALL round if I have a woofer?
    And large ALL round if I do not?

    Cya,
    Shaz
     
  2. Ian J

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    A speaker is generally "large" if it can handle the full range adequately and Small" if it is a satellite or fairly poor in the bass department.

    Experimentation is the answer, especially with the centre speaker.
     
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    In your case I´d have the Fronts as Large and the others as Small.

    As you havent got a sub (get one quick!! you´re missing out on a lot!) the amp will redirect all bass to the front speakers.

    If you had a Sub, setting all speakers to small, all bass to the sub generally gives the best performance.

    Cheers
     
  4. thestorm

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    Thanks for that bit of advice.
    I've got all speakers set to large as they can all handle full range.
    And I'll experiement with the center.

    Cheers!
     
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    Since I don't have a sub I'll set all to large and see how things go.
    I'd love to get a sub but I reckon my neighbours will go crazy esp
    hearing the phantom menace pod race..again & again and again!
    :D

    What sub do u think I should get?
    The REL's seem very popular. My room is about 7m X 6m
    I don't want to move furniture or my internal organs for that matter!

    I was thinking of the Rel Q201E that'll be enough for my room
    & neighbours won't it? ;)


    Cya,
    Shaz
     
  6. Ian J

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    REL's are rightly popular as they are good but have a look at the new kid on the block by MJ Acoustics which is small and has received some good write ups.

    http://www.mjacoustics.com is their URL
     
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    I'm looking for something very good and affordable,
    If it's cheaper than than the REL then it's worth considering!
    What would be the equivalent model to the Rel Q201E
    I had a look at the Pro 100 it got 5 stars from What HiFi so I'll
    start my researtch from there. It doesn't seem to have much
    power as compared to the 201E that's 200W and the MJ is 50W.

    I'd be using it for both Home Cinmea and Music.

    Thanks for the link!

    Cya,
    Shaz
     
  8. Ian J

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    I don't think that the power output of a sub is as meaningful as one might think.

    I listened to a Def Tech sub last week with a power output of 280 watts and it didn't seem to be louder than my old REL Q Bass which only has 40 watts.

    I will be selling my Q Bass shortly and buying something more powerful but only because the Def Tech or MJ Pro is so much smaller and I can reclaim more of my living room.
     
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    ian......just had a look at the mj range, like the look of the pro100, and with sevenoaks only a few mile away good enough reason to have a listen to it. Got the REL Q50 and to me will take a lot of beating, increadible little sub. Not looking to upgrade the sub, but you never know..........!
     
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    I like the Rels, not only because they´re excellent subs but because they have the ability to be connected via both low & high level at the same time.

    This means they can be set optimally for both Movies & Music without faffing about with your amp settings all the time.

    I´m looking at a Q400 (or 2!!) as my next sub. At the moment I´ve got the Q200.

    cheers
     
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    Sorry but I'm a bit of a hifi virgin. I have a Denon 2802 amp because of its 6.1 EX/ES abilities.

    If I set ALL my speakers as small, including the front main speakers), so that ALL my bass goes to the subwoofer, does that eliminate the need to biwire the main speakers?
     
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    Dr Rock,

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this is not a serious question.

    Biwiring is where two sets of speaker leads run from the speaker to the amplifier, one carrying the treble and the other the bass.

    It has nothing to do with setting the speakers as large and small.

    One can biwire any speaker that has the necessary two sets of terminals whether they are large or small.

    If this is a wind up I presume that next time I look you will have edited your question so that it makes my answer a nonsense.
     

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