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Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by charlie55, Jun 4, 2005.

  1. charlie55

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    i wonder if anyone can tell me if the colours in thr first 50 mins. of the aviator are meant to look the way they do.
    in the scene where hughes and hepburn walk from the aircraft to the house the grass looks blue rather than green, also there are numerous scenes where the sky appears aquamarine rather than blue, it looks like it is meant but the effect is quite jarring.
    i am using a 42 viera & a pioneer 747a but i don't think they have anything to do with this strange effect. if anyone can tell me why this was used i would be grateful.
    also i must say i did not really like the film although cate blanchett was as usual outstanding.
     
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    The colours actually evolve 3 times during the film (two-tone Technicolor, three-tone and modern) to represent the time and feel of the period depicted.
    Nice effect, boring movie.
     
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    No, Scorcese actually said, the fact that the colours represent each time periods film stocks was a fortunate accident. He really did this in order to confuse and agitate home cinema enthusiasts.
     
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    Throughout The Aviator, Scorsese uses subtle colour changes to depict the transformation of Hollywood over the decades. In an early portion of the movie, the color blue appears in a number of unexpected places. Scorsese had some of the images altered to change green to blue in order to partially simulate early two-tone Technicolor movies. An accident...no, a brilliant technical ploy, yes.
     
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    Seriously, those peas were blue godammit. I tried degausing my display. Then I went through a time consuming re-calibration of my display in order to make them green (their natural colour!) but it still didnt really look right. Plus that only made every other film look wrong! Whats the deal I spent my hard earned cash on some top of the line consumer electronics and this film comes along and almost causes me to replace the most expensive component. I really wish Scorcese hadnt done that. It may have been the golden era of Hollywood but we're living in the 21st century today and I like my colours to be up to the standard of THX.
     
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    Totally ruined the movie for me.After my family moaning about the "strange colours" I stopped the Dvd on my Pioneer 939 tried it on my panny dvdr, both good players, they then they went on to blame my projector.No way was i taking that! So i tried my 17" w/s lcd where it was still crap colours "so it must be the dvd movie" by then i'd lost the will to live. Sorry but if your going to have crap colours like that put a warning on the cover and i'll have the choice of buy or not to buy,the latter would of been the case with this film.
     
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    I wonder why you lot bother watching films at all if this sort of thing "annoys" you.
     
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    "I wonder why you lot bother watching films at all if this sort of thing "annoys" you."
    I suppose were not all perfect mate but going through all the hassle of last night, yes it annoys me.The colouring was rubbish in my opinion,i think it would of looked better in black and white,then changing to that type of 1930s colouring as in wizard of oz and then changing to a more up to date colour.Yes i bother waching dvds as i usually enjoy them,i own 600+ and think i can get "annoyed" now and again,so maybe you wont need to wonder anymore.
     
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    Thought it was a marvellously effective ploy. Far from being an "annoyance" I felt it enhanced the work. :smashin:
     
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    Sweet hezeus. I was lampooning y'all then some dude comes along and one ups my shennanigans but only he's for real! I tried it on my <insert impressive hardware make and model#> and ive never had any problem before with my collection of <insert impressive quantity> dvds. Maybe I should try it on a <insert name of insanely expensive new piece of AV hardware> any one heard any good reviews?
     
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    Couldn't agree more. If artistic licence wasn't taken then all films would end up being the same (erh..like most hollywood blockbusters actually). Experimentation pushes the boundaries, good fimmaking is a creative art.
    mediamogal said in his post he feels it would have looked better in black and white, also boring and unimaginative. A far too obvious approach.

    Is this getting seriously off topic or is it me?
     
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    Very good. You know I actually thought you were serious in your first post.
     
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    everyone's entitled to there own opinion but it does'nt alter the fact that for me the effects did'nt add anything to the movie,quite the reverse.
    the elitest tendency that i have seen on these forums in the short time i have been a member is worrying. if i am mistaken then i apoligise( i think i spelt that wrong) .
    i have had a lot of good advice on these forums in the past and i hope to get more in the future.
     
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    So let me get this straight.

    Those of us that "got" what Scorcese was trying to do with his use of colour in the movie, and appreciated it and felt that it enhanced our enjoyment of the movie, are admonished for being "elitist".

    While those that didn't get it and spent hours tweaking, twiddling and running between their various display devices and DVD players are...???



    PS: If artistic deviations from the norm in the cinematographer's chromatic palette are enough to ruin the enjoyment of a film (as appears to be the case for some) might I suggest you avoid "Sin City". ;)
     
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    never touched settings on tv or dvd player only wanted confirmation that the effects were intentional. can't change fact the film was poor.
     
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    Oh I see. That's a stone cold fact then is it?

    As opposed to a personal opinion. Like these for example...

    "Celebrates film's possibilities with a joy and confidence that comes only from a cast, writer and director at the top of their powers."

    "The Aviator has 'Oscar nominations' written all over it, including for Scorsese, who massages this sprawling epic into one of the most interesting films of the year."

    "...an aggressive, overwhelming piece of cinema that raises the year's cinematic G.P.A. [Goal Point Average] all by itself."

    "A film of grand scope and masterfully intimate nuance, portraying a wild young mustang of a man who lived a fast life on an epic scale."

    "Fantastic! DiCaprio channels Hughes. Scorsese finally breathes life into his muse. "

    "The Aviator is the perfect melding of talent and material."

    "“The Aviator” soars as one of the year’s best films. "

    ""The Aviator” is one of the best films of the year, and chock full of fabulous performances. "

    'Quite simply, “The Aviator” is one of the year’s top movies'"


    But then they probably weren't upset by the colour going "all funny". ;)
     
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    it was my personal opinion but somehow i think you knew that.
     
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    Those black bars are really annoying too . I wish they wouldn''t chop the top and bottom off the picture.
     
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    God, face facts. 90% of AV enthusiasts like movies with big explosions and action. Not the Aviator and not 90% of other movies that are great. Quit wasting your time.
     
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    Sorry i did'nt like the aviator,afraid im gonna upset you a bit more the last 5 dvds i bought hav'nt an explosion between them.So thats your theory out the window.I wont name them all so you dont accuse me of <inserting impressive titles>Are you always like this when folks dont share your views?
     
  21. the_pauley

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    Sorry, but it was just that in your previous post...
    ...the word "fact" threw me for a loop - hence my inquiry. :D
     
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    Yes and I usually end up fighting/dueling them.

    Also, theories rarely involve scathing and flippant remarks. They often involve statistics though so I won't duel/fight you this time.

    Sorry I don't feel the need to pacify reactions to MY opnions and comments with the use of smilies.

    You say the five titles didn't contain a single explosion. Were they pornography by any chance? ;)
     
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    i am sorry if i have upset anyone with my posts on the aviator but i really did not like this movie,colour effects aside,even if the colour effects had been in tartan.
    the only reason i ever got into this av lark was to really enjoy movies, this after 30 years of hi-fi enjoying music.
    no the black bars have never bothered me i do prefer the correct ratio or as close as possible to it.
    my favourite film of all time is the shawshank redemption and if memory serves me there is only about 3 gunshots in that one.
    imho there seems to be a tone of you must be a moron if you don't like certain movies on the forum. rant over.
     
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    Yes - it seems to be particularly prevalent among those *$%#ing "Star Wars" fans. :D

    Not to mention ;) and indeed :devil:
     
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    Many other films have used the colour changing/odd colour pallets to great effect. As mentioned are Sin City which is almost totally in B/W and Wizard of Oz which changes to wonderfully vibrant colours when Dorothy wakes up in Oz. But there are many more. Roger Deakins, cinematographer to many Coen Brothers films makes great use of the colour pallet. One classic example of his was 'O Brother Where Art Thou' where the colours start out all dusty and washed out, as if the film stock was sun bleached and this slowly changes as the film progresses to be more full colour by the middle of the film. Another classic is 'Shindler's List' where everything is B/W apart from the 'little red girl'. Action fans may have missed the effect in Star Wars III where most of the early scenes are bright and colourful but after the 'sunset' scene with Padme & Anakin the film takes a more visually darker and violent appearance.

    These are only a few that come to mind there are many more as I'm sure others will remind us.
     
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    'Oh brother where art thou' is one of my most watched dvds,and i mentioned the 'Wizard of oz' in a previous thread.I love movies of all kinds and am not usually adverse to colour changing or any artistic licence used by the director as it usually adds to the enjoyment of the work.In the case of the 'Aviator' it did'nt work for me,i thought their was a problem with the equipment i was watching it on.After all blue peas, turquoise grass!
     
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    I'm gonna watch it in the next couple of days to see what the fuss is all about. When I went to see it in the cinema I thought the film was excellent 8.5/10 IMO.
    We haven't had a "heated" thread in a long time :rotfl:
     

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