AVForums Podcast: Episode 182 - 19th June 2017

Phil Hinton

Editor
Staff member
This week we discuss:

00:00:25 – We’re back from our summer holidays
00:04:12 – Current Competitions
00:04:50 – Ed’s views on the Q Acoustic Concept 500 speakers
00:13:40 – Mark rounds-up this year’s E3
00:23:14 – Steve’s thoughts on the LG E7 and B7 OLED TVs
00:45:23 – Film round-up – Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2, The Mummy, Wonder Woman and Baywatch
00:56:26 – Films opening on Friday – Transformers: The Last Knight
01:00:25 – Blu-rays released this week – The LEGO Batman Movie, Moonlight, Aftermath, The Bird With the Crystal Plumage and The Fisher King
01:02:30 – Ultra HD Blu-ray News
01:05:48 – RIP Adam West
01:11:50 – Goodbyes

Presented by Phil Hinton with Steve Withers, Mark Botwright and Ed Selley

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Time: 01:12:48 | File Size: 104mb | Direct Link
 

mark800

Distinguished Member
Spot on conclusions regarding the OLEDs. Thanks for this. Also, great discussion about colour accuracy, motion and banding. It's nice to hear so much common sense. Given this, my recommendation is always to go and look at the TVs in the flesh and see them with your own eyes.

Exciting developments on Dolby Vision, and thanks for the message to Kuro owners. "It's time to let go".
 
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Will Parkinson

Active Member
The Xbox One X now vents from the sides rather than the top like the Xbox One S (so it can be stacked), that's why you can't see any vents in the press shots. It also uses a vapour cooling system so is unlikely to overheat when running a UHD Blu-Ray, but possibly get a little hot under heavy load while gaming.
 

huddy72

Standard Member
I read that 50% of xbox one owners use 360 backward compatibility.

I also heard that the xbox one X is 'slighty' louder that the xbox one s.
 

sparkymark75

Well-known Member
The Xbox One X now vents from the sides rather than the top like the Xbox One S (so it can be stacked), that's why you can't see any vents in the press shots. It also uses a vapour cooling system so is unlikely to overheat when running a UHD Blu-Ray, but possibly get a little hot under heavy load while gaming.
Yeah, easy to find this stuff out if you do a bit of research ;)
  • It pulls air in from the sides and vents it out the back.
  • The power supply is built into the console, no external power brick
  • Each Xbox One X is calibrated at the factory so that all the components are optimised for the best energy profile and to match the "Scorpio engine"
  • It supports Dolby Atmos (since they were talking about using it as a media device)
 
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sparkymark75

Well-known Member
I read that 50% of xbox one owners use 360 backward compatibility.

I also heard that the xbox one X is 'slighty' louder that the xbox one s.

I'm guessing the article Phil was referring to with regards people not using backwards compatibility (BC) was this one - Xbox One users largely ignore backward-compatible Xbox 360 games

However that article used flawed analysis to arrive at its conclusions and the site subsequently published an update after Microsoft corrected them.

Correction: Undercounted usage data in our Xbox Unleashed analysis

I've used BC a few times and I'm assuming quite a few others do as an Xbox 360 (Call of Duty: Black Ops II) title rocketed up the sales charts recently when it was made available on BC for the Xbox One.
 

Jessica Noir

Well-known Member
Lads, lads, lads... when will you finally give the public what they want and do a AVForums podcast commentary for Theodore Rex?
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Rob20

Well-known Member
I have never seen any rainbow effect on my Kuro, but I have seen banding, dirty screen and very now and again the buzzing is noticeable. However, these issues are only apparent every now and again so have never bothered me. I'm guessing the same would be true of OLED, but I'd like to think in 10 years tech had moved on!
 

steviedr

Distinguished Member
Great podcast as usual guys.

Was very interesting reading the B7 review last week, it has certainly made me consider it and not just the A1 or EZ952 - (looking forward to that review this week;))

Steve, I know you're flat out, but will you be adding comments on DV compared to HDR 10 in the B7 review now the discs arrived (or separate thread) to see if Panny have made a poor decision? It's difficult to tell so far as some A1 users with DV say there wasn't too much difference (as the A1 seems to have its own dynamic HDR10 on the go) while others have said there is a big difference (and they may have low to mid range models with poorer tone mapping). Assuming it's as easy as connecting 2 players to same tv, one with DV and flick between the sources to see what difference it makes on a panel that supports it, then a normal side by side comparison for panels that do not?

While I was holding out for the 952, and trying not to tick box...box tick, tick tock (or was that LGD talk for 2017-18), I'm starting to side with LG/Sony....

Cheers all.
 
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Sebastalona

Distinguished Member
In relation to the Le Mans discussion, those of you who watched may have seen this advertised during commercial breaks, but if not, then I highly recommend this new series on Amazon Prime Instant Video. 6 part documentary on the 2015 race, with very interesting behind the scenes looks at the five LMP1 teams competing that year (Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Nissan and Rebellion):

Le Mans: Racing is Everything

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invisiblekid

Distinguished Member
In relation to the Le Mans discussion, those of you who watched may have seen this advertised during commercial breaks, but if not, then I highly recommend this new series on Amazon Prime Instant Video. 6 part documentary on the 2015 race, with very interesting behind the scenes looks at the five LMP1 teams competing that year (Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Nissan and Rebellion):

Le Mans: Racing is Everything

OOo5ees.jpg
What the advert broadcast every commercial break?!! Just started to watch. Looks great in 4K HDR, however the female voiceover is very grating. I take it it's a deliberate choice, but the computer racing game style they've used is bleh!

Have to agree with Phil, the Ullapool-Lochinver road is ace. My family have been going to Lochinver and Stoer just above it for generations. Sweeping bends that you can see any on-coming traffic, that means you can......oh wait, ex-copper......means you can drive on the left only and never cross over the lanes. :smashin: Good pie shop in Lochinver too. But I bet Phil went here? Peet's Restaurant | Lochinver Restaurants | Top Quality Food

anyway great podcast, you've been missed greatly. Might have to consider a B7 I think.
 

Spacecat

Banned
[QUOTE="mark800, post: 25130739, , and thanks for the message to Kuro owners. "It's time to let go".[/QUOTE]

You'll have to prise it from my dead hands

Unless a truly reference TV turns up....which doesn't seem anytime soon.
 

invisiblekid

Distinguished Member
Spacecat said:
You'll have to prise it from my dead hands

Unless a truly reference TV turns up....which doesn't seem anytime soon.

Your missing out on a fair bit. I have mine in the bedroom and yes it still looks fine indeed, but I dont see anything missing on an OLED that is bettered on the Kuro. It's only plus points that outweigh any negatives you might see. Also with the aircon going in the bedroom, it's fighting a loosing battle with radiator that happen to display a picture device!

I will say, the general thought of the Kuro dying was the price. And yet we have TV's costing twice as much that are possibly selling more.......go figure
 

Spacecat

Banned
I'm more than happy with my old kuro at the moment, I'm not desperate to go 4k and all that that entails, it seems to me the TV market is so volatile with seemingly new features and changes every year at not inconsiderable prices which soon became outdated.

If my current tv packed up i'd probably buy a decent Oled , but I can't see an overwhelming need to upgrade
 
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invisiblekid

Distinguished Member
I'm more than happy with my old kuro at the moment, I'm not desperate to go 4k and all that that entails, it seems to me the TV market is so volatile with seemingly new features and changes every year at not inconsiderable prices which soon became outdated.

If my current tv packed up i'd probably buy a decent Oled , but I can't see an overwhelming need to upgrade
There are always changes around the corner, but I do understand the hesitation. Something not compatible for a future broadcast method (physical disc is sorted imo for years) rather than a better TV or PQ is a bet for for sure. The pull for me was a bigger size for less space. Going from a 50" Kuro to a modern 65" with actually not much more of a footprint was impossible to resist along with 4K and HDR. But one look at the uniformity of a plasma makes me pine for an OLED. But it must be 65". No way can I downsize, but 65" OLED's commend a mighty premium!

And it's not like I ditched the Kuro. It's in a bedroom. A Kuro in a bedroom lol!
 

Spacecat

Banned
mines a 60 inch KRP 600a last generation so the extra 5 inches wouldn't make so much difference
plus I'm lucky enough to have a dedicated , batcave cinema/projector set up so TV isn't the be and end all for me...for movies
 

invisiblekid

Distinguished Member
mines a 60 inch KRP 600a last generation so the extra 5 inches wouldn't make so much difference
plus I'm lucky enough to have a dedicated , batcave cinema/projector set up so TV isn't the be and end all for me...for movies

Ahhhhh in that case, I can perfectly understand having a cinema room will give someone that perspective. I have a LX5090 so a step down the Kuro ladder? Cannot remember the KRP model numbers for my TV's generation
 

Sebastalona

Distinguished Member
What the advert broadcast every commercial break?!! Just started to watch. Looks great in 4K HDR, however the female voiceover is very grating. I take it it's a deliberate choice, but the computer racing game style they've used is bleh!

Have to agree with Phil, the Ullapool-Lochinver road is ace. My family have been going to Lochinver and Stoer just above it for generations. Sweeping bends that you can see any on-coming traffic, that means you can......oh wait, ex-copper......means you can drive on the left only and never cross over the lanes. :smashin: Good pie shop in Lochinver too. But I bet Phil went here? Peet's Restaurant | Lochinver Restaurants | Top Quality Food

anyway great podcast, you've been missed greatly. Might have to consider a B7 I think.

I've got a feeling the woman is a Radio Le Mans presenter, perhaps explains the radio broadcast quality her voice has. I know the guy certainly is.
 

Toon Army

Well-known Member
Great to hear you all again after your " break ". Laughed at Steve's chuckle in the background when Phil mentioned backward compatability and 3D. Found the discussion around OLED panels interesting and I will be plumping for a B7 without any reservations after Steve's review and willingness to get his credit card out to buy one. Looking forward to the UHD players' comparison article.
 

meltonboy

Well-known Member
Thanks again for another great listen. If only they did a B7 in 40 or 42", then i'd be in. Sadly wife wants a smaller screen next time (to which i read smaller total size as my 12 yr old panny has a lot of frame around it).

MB
 

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