AVForums Podcast: 8th July 2015

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    1. Phil Hinton

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      This week we discuss:

      00:00:50 Current competitions
      00:01:18 Upcoming review - 55” Panasonic CX802 UHD TV
      00:02:20 Panasonic Hollywood Labs, Technicolor and accurate colours on a TV
      00:16:20 Phil visits Skywalker Ranch and the old ILM building
      00:26:09 The truth about HDR
      00:27:44 What to look for in bookshelf and sub/sat speakers
      00:38:15 What’s at the cinema Steve? - Terminator Genisys
      00:42:00 Movies released next week - Ted 2
      00:43:43 Blu-ray Roundup - It Follows, Chappie and Focus
      00:47:38 What was the first 18 certificate film you saw at the cinema?
      00:52:00 What scene in a film freaked you out as a kid?
      01:01:52 Goodbyes

      Presented by Phil Hinton with Steve Withers and Ed Selley

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    2. Habanero

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      This one hasn't appeared in iTunes yet. Is it a matter of time?
       
    3. Phil Hinton

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      It should be there as I can see it at this end.
       
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      Phil, how big was the group at Panasonic and were they all tech journalists? I'm a bit shocked only you and a few Japanse wanted to take a look in the engineers' workshop and the rest goes for a coffee. That was the best part of the whole story.
       
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      4 from UK, 4 from Germany, 1 Polish and 1 French. That's the way it happened although there may have been a couple of Germans tagging along as well as the Japanese engineers. It was an interesting part of the tour for me, but you probably can't expect everyone to want to get the same things out of such a visit.
       
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      It seems the link was originally wrong or something. My app downloaded it but when played it was the beginning of June program.

      Deleted and redownloaded and now is fine.
       
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      Exorcist 1 and 2 double bill at age 16 on a Sunday lunchtime. For some reason the usher laughed at us. After hiding behind a long Dr. Who scarf for 2 hours I ran away amid howls of laughter. It was the soundtrack and Mercedes voice. As for the most disturbing scene I watched the Devil's Rain starring Shatner and at the end everyone's face melts. I've never really recovered from the 70's.
       
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      Very informative. Let's hope Mr Panasonic is or has already got his mojo back. Looking forward to the future announcements.
       
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      Loved the podcast this week, your jolly sounded amazing, looking forward to the video. Very surprised to hear they shoot flat, is there any video footage from the colourists part of the trip? I recall from LotR extras watching how the whole grading process worked, very very interesting ...
      Looking forward to the AVF Christmas competition for 2 tickets to Skywalker ranch to watch ep 7 ;)
       
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      What interests me is how this fits with the TV shootout (Value Electronics HD Shoot out) they did in the states (latest ep of home threatre Geeks), where they ranked the latest Panasonic as the worst of the options.

      I don't know if its the same range or not.
       
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      Cracking podcast as usual.

      Steve is spot on, Terminator genesis is a blast. Not sure what the reviewers were expecting and it's miles better than the Meh..nions movie which is getting universal praise.
       
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      There were a couple of films that properly freaked me out as a kid. An American Werewolf In London was the first one. This would have been 1982 or 1983, so I was 11 or 12 years old, and watched it on a pirate VHS that was being passed around my mates. The opening kill scene on the moors made me nervous of being in similar surroundings for the next few years. Living in a rural area in the far north of Scotland meant that I was quite often in similar surroundings, and that scene was always at the forefront of my mind. I didn't believe in werewolf's, but the fear was there, and I couldn't shake it.

      The other film is, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Again, it was 1982/83, and on a pretty ropey pirate VHS that was being passed around. It terrified me at the time, especially the meat-hook scene, and it is actually the last movie that has ever scared me. After that movie, at that age, nothing was ever able to terrify me in the same way.

      Zombie Flesh Eaters is another film I remember vividly watching for the first time, but not because it scared me. I would have been 13 or 14, and went to become a member of one of the new rental stores in town. You had to be 18 to become a member, so my mum came along to do the deed. I was immediately drawn to the green cover with the Zombified hand raising out of the ground. I just had to see this movie. My mother wasn't keen, but I went on and on and on, and eventually she relented. A little later, I started to watch the movie while I had my dinner. It was an Omelette, covered in ketchup, and I'm sure it would have been lovely, but all the blood and guts and brains being spilled on the screen put me right off it.

      As for my first 18 certificate movie at the cinema. I honestly don't know, but it wasn't anything during my youth. Where I live, the cinema closed in 1983, and the closest one was 100 miles away in Inverness. So cinema visits were always few and far between. I'm not actually sure if I've ever watched an 18 certificate movie at the cinema.

      I watched 'It Follows' over the weekend, and while I didn't find it scary, it's a really good movie. It was an original idea, and very well executed. A lot better than anything Hollywood has been producing for years.
       
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      Yeah they really didn't like the black levels. But interesting that on paper they had the best numbers after calibration but looked horrible in reality when it was running to correct gamma.

      But what a wonderful podcast guys. Really interesting, but until all the Panasonic are tested, it mean nothing. As in the Value Electronics HD Shoot out, they had the right numbers which what they are boasting, but numbers are not everything.

      As for 1st scary films? Well away for the cinema it was it seems one of the most common, American Werewolf In London. It was the exact same scenes as Phil described that got me. But also the London Underground got to me in a big way. I was still in primary school so it would have been 11 or 12?

      Then also Texas Chainsaw. That less freaky to me, but I was older too, prob around 14.

      I remember loving Videodrome and of course Evil Dead. Hellraiser, Puppet Master, Childs Play, The Video Dead. The list goes on all before I the legal age.

      As for sneaking into the cinema? Hmmmm, I think it would have been The Exorcist (special midnight showing) at 16yo
       
    14. Phil Hinton

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      I would take the shootout scores and subsequent internet meltdown (in the US) with a big pinch of salt. There are too many variables at play. We have tested two now, properly, and with reference material and have no real issues to report. In terms of accuracy in the graphs and more importantly to experienced eyes with on-screen material, the CX802 is stunningly good. Plus, members are now getting the TVs in their homes and most are very satisfied. Remember the shootout is also the event that scored a Sharp LCD over the best Plasmas a few years ago, a TV when I finally saw it that was utterly disappointing and just highlighted how variables, hype and positioning can influence and distort a result at such events.
       
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      I wasn't at the US shoot-out and I don't know how they set it up, what material they were using or even if the US models are the same as those in the UK. However I can say that after testing the CX802, I'm in complete agreement with Mark, it's a great TV. It has the best colour accuracy of any TV I've ever measured and the greyscale and gamma were also reference. Perhaps more importantly for most people, the greyscale and colour gamut were very accurate out-of-the-box in THX Cinema mode. However if you want to get your CX802 calibrated the controls are superb and Panasonic's video processing is second to none. The native blacks are excellent for an LCD TV thanks to the use of a VA panel, although it does mean that like the Samsung's the optimal viewing angle is quite narrow. The direct backlight is very effective with good uniformity and no banding. There's been a lot of talk about there only being 9 x 2 dimming zones but when watching actual content I found the local dimming to be surprisingly effective. When Panasonic released the AX902 last year people (myself included) complained about the use of an IPS panel and the price. I think this year Panasonic have responded admirably, producing an excellent TV that uses a VA panel and is available at a competitive price. So good for them.
       
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      Excellent post thanks!
       
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      All true of course, however not sure which member of the group it was without going back and checking, went to Panasonic studios afterwards and checked the same TV and it behaved the exact same way so at the very least Panasonic will be aware of the issue. They did mention how accurate the rest of the picture was. I make no hesitation that some of the organisers are, hmm, a bit precious I think is the word I'm after.

      I'm not quite how the event gets such huge admiration when they only test flagship TV's that many cannot afford and then internet then seems to filter any results and if bad seem to then colour the whole ranch with the same brush.

      Anyway, the very fact that a manufacture is at least making a serious effort to make their TV's look good is to be celebrated.

      Now lets' see how serious they are if they still include a Dynamic mode :rolleyes:
       
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      First 18 (I think an X actually) was porky's in 1982. As an innocent 16 year old, I thought I was going to a porno, lol. I sneeked in and out hoping nobody I knew saw me.

      The only time a movie has really freaked me out was the first sight of the the Alien in the Alien film. I was 14 or so, on my own and in the dark. A little poo may have been created.
       
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      Great pod-cast,thank you.What a great experience going to the Skywalker Ranch.
      Aliens was my first 18 certificate and one of my 16 year old friends put black shoe polish above his top lip to look as though he had stubble(Silent shock on this forum)Odeon smallbrook queensway in Brum.
      I remember watching the Entity at a friends house as a youngster and that film had me worried about going to bed for a few nights.

      Watched Terminator Genisys last night at Empire Rubery Cinema's new Imax 3d screen.Great picture,awesome sound,ok 3d effects but a very enjoyable film.I had read reviews and watched Mark Kermode on bbc review it and went with trepidation.However i thoroughly enjoyed the action and mayhem and glad i went to see it .Imax is good but at a price to the wallet-not many in the 20:30 showing.
       
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      never showed in my itunes
       

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