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AV32R Dual Processor

Discussion in 'TAG McLaren Audio Owners' Forum' started by jungool, Feb 1, 2005.

  1. jungool

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    Hi Guys,

    Can someone please advise me on what would be the right price for an AV32R.

    The unit was ugraded to dp/192dacs in december 2004. Does not have 5.1Bypass.

    I hope this is not seen as an advert, it's just a request for advise on price.

    Thanks a bunch,

    Jungool
     
  2. GrahamMG

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    A proper DP has to be worth £2k....... Trouble is that there are so many variables on upgraded kit 5.1/7.1/bypass/dab/options etc. These can make a big difference to the price. Of course the upgrade itself has an influence too depending on what it was upgraded from and how well it was done (has it had rework since/DTS 96/24 replay etc.......).
     
  3. Plump

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    normally such upgraded unit would have second hand market value of 1.6-1.7k
    but since it was upgraded in 12/2004 it can only mean the board is changed, therefore if all software options are activated it might get 2k.
     
  4. GrahamMG

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    I'd love to know who wrote the "Glass's" guide for this.... :D These things don't come up for sale second hand often yet. Are we driving the price down so hifibitz can judge what to offer stock at??? :lease: If that is the case I'll say the things are absolute rubbish and not worth a lot and anything over £500 is asking too much :rotfl: :rotfl: Cash waiting..... ;)
     
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    500? are you kidding, cum'on that's overpriced .....? :D
     
  6. GrahamMG

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    If you don't ask..........etc....
    After all a fully loaded AV192R is only 6 times that! :devil:
     
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    6 times, no, not with the scaler that can't deinterlace 1080i
    max 5 times I'd say....
     
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    I was "done" then..... :rotfl:
     
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    BTW. Not deinterlacing 1080i isn't an issue, hardly anyone can do anything with a 1080p signal anyway..... Actually I think it does de-interlace but not scale? 720p is all 99% of people want anyway! HDTV in the UK looks set to be that..... Until we all can afford 2k x 1k DLP's it will do just fine and at that time in the future we will all be using PC's for our viewing so off board scalers will be dead ducks...... And you know I'll say "told you so" :rotfl:
     
  10. jungool

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    To Plump: Yes the board was definitly changed, the invoice attests to that. I sent it in at the end of October Job was done and returned to me within the quoted lead time.

    To Graham: Please tell me you are kidding about the £500.00 price. I'm just looking to get an idea of a fair price before putting it up for sale through the right channels.
     
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    Yes it is a Black 5.1 unit. No DAB, No Bypass.
     
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    Well, than you might get 2k if you're lucky.
    Recently all DP units with bypass went for (on ebay or elsewhere) slightly over 2k.
    Without bypass it is matter of luck on ebay and matter of negotiations elsewhere.
     
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    Thanks for your candid reply. I'll see how much i can get for it and let you know through the forum.
     
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    Yes indeed I was not being serious about the £500, my sense of humour.......
    Around half list price would be very fair......
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Why would you sell it anyway......?????
     
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    I have a Bryston 9BST and i'm in the process of getting the Bryston SP1.7 Processor. Thought i'd keep things uniformed....warranty and all that.....
     
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    Although I have strong ties with Bryston and PMC, the SP7.1 is a step backwards in quality from the DP...... The 9BST is easily as good as the 100x5R (in truth a bit better), the TAG 250x3R and the Bryston 6BSST are a big step up.....
     
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    The funny thing about this is that i was actually on the hunt for a 100x5R when someone on the TAG halpdesk recommended Bryston.

    Would you care to elaborate about this 'step backwards in quality from the DP...... '
     
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    The TAG DP is about as good as it gets from a processing/sound quality and ease of use/setup point of view and of course it includes TMREQ........Nothing in this price range (or probably any price) sounds any better frankly once setup... The Bryston SP7.1 is a fine device but it isn't as good as a DP IMHO....
     
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    I think you are mad :suicide: to flog it.
     
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    Tag equipment (bought brand new or used) are not your regular high street electronics and i believe that the quality and the ability to upgrade the units are wonderful selling points.

    If anyone had told me that i'd one day try to 'flog' my AV32R, i would have said they were MAD.
    The present situation with IAG is however rather scary and understandably, they'll only do what's best for their business. No matter where it leaves the present customers.

    The test of any product at this level is surely in the backing it recieves from it's manufacturers. IAG must realise that they inherited this responsibility.
     
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    I'd agree, it is damn scary. And starting from this point of view, pre/pro with 20 years of warranty is a logical way to go. If you can live without TMREQ (I can't) it is good choice.

    I consider myself very lucky since I never had any problem with my TAG gear (apart from totally unmatched blue LED levels) but I must say I am scared of loosing my gear for 3-4 months for IAG repair. Or even worse, who knows if top loader will be reparable in 5 years or so?!
     
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    I'll wager none of us will be using stuff like this in 5 years time.....Not only TAG gear.... Flat panel speakers built into walls, ULED or better screen walls, centre nervious system for music and films, download libraries (Blockbuster on line!) beamed HDTV direct to your server via satellite......etc........ SKYNET.......
    Be afraid people........ If I get 18 months out of the current kit I will be doing very well......technology is moving that fast in the home entertainment business.....
     
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    I'm having a USB5x port installed in the back of my neck in 2009 :rotfl:
     
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    Buying premium products such as these is a matter of choice. The reasons for this choice vary from person to person. Upgrading to new technologies is also a matter of choice. Some people move with the winds of technology while others are quite content to stick with what works for them. Again, it’s a question of Choice.

    It may just be easier for everyone to buy the '80 quid' devices at Argos and simply chuck them out when a new technology kid appears on the block.

    As much as i enjoy Graham's contribution to the forum, sometimes i think he was sent here to keep us all firmly 'locked into the Matrix'. The IAG Matrix.

    I’m sure users of other premium products (AV or other) have their share of problems. I wonder though, if the level of attentiveness they get from the people/companies, with whom they’ve chosen to spend what I regard as very good money, is the same as what we see here. Choice when appreciated and cultivated facilitates continuity.

    I’ve been a TAG lover for much longer than I’ve been a TAG owner and I must admit that the few contacts I’ve had with the TAG helpdesk have been problem free. In fact, they've been remarkable. The horror stories that one reads here are however not what one would expect of products or companies at this level.
     
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    I, like yourself, upgraded from SP to DP/192 in Dec 2004, so I am just thinking, why pay all that money for the quality upgrade if you wish to sell it for probably less than the upgrade.

    You probably have your reasons.
     
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    Spending money on the upgrade shows my commitment to the product and it’s future. Symbolism is a big thing in the world today. IAG needs to be seen to be doing the same or at least, something along such lines.

    Does this make sense or am I just dancing in the dark?
     
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    Well, it is very obvious that IAG' behaviour is driving the people think negative.
     
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    My AV32 is sadly only a single processor and I have been toying with the idea of going upgrade or new DP or even the 192 (I don't need all the toys, just XLR set and the TMreq).
    The IAG saga has made me rethink my choice, but now it looks like even that will not be possible, except second hand.
    I am not going to go for the Audiolab (even if it does have a raised logo!) until it has proven itself as good as the TAG.
     

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