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AV with suitable connections

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by digisocialist, Oct 3, 2004.

  1. digisocialist

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    Hi all,

    I've been looking at the Sony STRDB795 and Denon 1905 recenetly and notice that there are no 'Phono' connections for connecting a Turntable. Am I mistaken and can I use another input? I noted that the Yamaha DSP-AX750 does have 1 phono connection; should I assume then that I should be looking in a higher price bracket for this option? I do have a NAD 302 amp which I can connect a Turntable to but really don't know how to connect it to an AV as there is no obvious OUT on the NAD that I see I could connect it to an AV with (Phono IN/Video Sound IN /CD IN /Tuner IN/Tape1 in/out/Tape2 in/out/PreOUT).

    Your advice would be much appreciated.
     
  2. wildone

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    Hi mate - provided the turntable has a built-in preamp, you can connect it to any spare input such as CD. If not, you'll have to look at amps / receivers with a dedicated TT input but IMO these are becoming rarer. The Project Debut Phono SB may be worth a look at about 170 pounds as it will connect to any AV amp. FWIW, my old Yamaha 620 had the TT input but I never used it (hooked up my old hifi to the PC and transferred the vinyl to CD), am now using the Marantz 7400 (no TT input but don't miss it).
    HTH - can anyone else offer any opinions ?? :)
     
  3. vonhosen

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    Why not get a 2nd hand Sony receiver higher up their product line that does have a "phono" in. I have a black STR-VA555ES for sale in the classifieds section ;)

    Here is what they look like with a list of inputs
    http://www.av-land.co.uk/sony/strva555/
     
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    Or you could buy an external phono stage. I've only got a very cheap TT so did not want to spend a fortune on the phono stage so with a bit of searching around found one for £25. Now this is rubbish compared to what I could buy for £50+ but is easily good enough for my TT and spending more would have been a waiste of money. When I upgrade the TT I will get a better phono stage to go with it, or as wildone suggested I am looking at the Project Debut Phono SB with the internal phono stage as I only use the TT on the odd occassion and therefore see no reason to spend more than £200.

    Mark.
     
  5. Dfour

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  6. digisocialist

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    Dfour,

    The PP2 looks the ticket for what I need. I don't need the Goldring TT as my NAD TT is very similar (infact I can see very little difference in style and components).

    I am getting very confused about this AV business. I thought the purpose of the AV was to serve as the workhorse for an entire system, allowing everything to be connected to one central place (like a hub) via whatever interconnect, and that the AV would do the rest i.e. allow any source device to be routed to any display device and switch/process accordingley for optimum end result. With the suggestion that I use 'Pre Outs' on the AV and stick to the NAD for driving Stereo/CD and it has also been suggested to also drive my Front speakers AND the very intereseting debate going on in the DVD section about the various interconnects and whats best for the AV, I'm starting to question my understanding of the AV's purpose.

    I thought I had the final system nailed down as follows:

    Toshiba 20VL43P LCD TV -> AV (via S-Video & Phono) My TV has Scart but it would be more difficult to cable a scart lead through the walls I have due to size - am I doing the right thing here?

    DVD to AV via Scart (though I have read elswhere now that possibly Coax (S-Vid?) or Optical would be better. I don't have the same constraint with cabling as the TV as the DVD and AV will be next to each other in the rack. Though If using S-Vid I then require additional leads for Audio i.e. Phono.

    AV -> Projector via Component (just bought some Belden 7110A for this purpose; though I'm now struggling to cable it behind my walls because it's so thick! It's quality though :) )

    Games Console -> AV via Component if possible (I know with the Xbox you can get the Advanced AV pack which uses Component). No cabling constraint here as it will be in the same rack.

    I've attached a diagram and am getting increasingly confused about what I should be doing. :(

    I know there's a lot of questions here, but any comments would be greatly appreciated.
     

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    digisocialist - If you want a very cheap option for connecting a turntable then Maplins have the following at half price (£12.50) -

    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=28732&TabID=1&source=15&WorldID=&doy=3m10

    I've used one of these to record my vinyl onto CD-R and IPod, and found the quality pretty good.

    Unfortunately the AV Receiver manufacturers seem to have decided what features we want and all work to that formula. Probably keeps the prices down in the end, but I know I'd rather have a phono input stage that all the video switching gubbins that I'll never use. At least Yamaha realise that not everone wants a damm analogue tuner in their amplifier :rolleyes:

    Dermot
     

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