AV receiver with phono stage?

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    Whilst awaiting the return of my elderly Delta 290 Amplifier from the menders, I got to musing about the possibility of acquiring an AV so as to enjoy both stereo and 5.1 surround with just the one amp.
    Not having much joy with the Arcam website (each item requires the manual to be downloaded for checking the inputs) at present; am I right in thinking no current or discontinued models have both 5.1 and a MM phono stage? Should I therefore stick with the Delta and get another box or is there a recommended phono pre-amplifier I can combine with an AVR100/200/280 or so? Somewht confused about talk of AV8s with 5.1 boards and 3 channels additional amps; sounds expensive and would leave me with even more boxes!

    I don't have a large budget for this, and the rest of my hi-fi is equally elderly (Rega turntable & arm, Rogers LS3/5a).

    Would it be best to wait another year or so, to give time for those want HDMI connectivity or audio processing to buy new kit and sell on their old ones?

    thanks for letting me ramble,
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    The AV8 and AV9 have 7.1 analogue inputs, a MM/MC phono option and good stereo performance.

    You ought to be able to get hold of an AV8 from those who want HDMI etc. The phono option can still be purchased if you buy an AV8 not having it already fitted.
     
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    Mark,
    Thanks for the suggestion, but I have no Swiss account to raid for an AV8 (there must be a joke about high prices for 'aviate'), which appear to be a good 4 figures second hand. Looks like I'll be sticking with the delta for the time being.
    Alex
     
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    Hi Alex,

    Phono stages start at about £40 - £60 (Cambridge Audio). Although I haven't heard them, the seem well regarded and could well be up to the quality of the one built into your Delta 290. Of course you can spend more on a phono stage ( a lot more). This will convert one of the inputs on and AVRxxx amp for use with your record player.

    I picked up an AVR300 last weekend, half price, and a really quite impressed with it's musical qualities.

    These two items would set you back about £700, of course you can save money going second hand.

    Good luck.

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    Alex,

    You could see if you could pick up an A70/A85/A90 with both the Phono stage and the multichannel board. Of course you would then need something like a P90/3 to drive the C/SL/SR channels. Not sure if the Multichannel boards are still available (I suspect not) so used may be your only choice.

    Cheaper than an AV8/9 would be something like a C30/C31 with the Multichannel option (think I saw an ex-demo c30 for sale in 7oaks in brighton)
    but then you would need Poweamps for all the channels.

    Ian.
     
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    The Multichannel board is still available new (I emailed Arcam and asked a couple of days ago).

    Yes, 7oaks in Brighton have a c30 ex dem, with the multichannel board, £750.

    Darrell
     
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    Well, looks like the AVR* route will suit my budget best, and add on a phono pre-amp if required.
    Would I be right in thinking
    AVR50 - £150+
    AVR100 - £200+
    AVR200 - £250+
    AVR250 - £300+
    AVR280 - £350+
    AVR300 - £450+
    as a rough guide?

    Think my budget will be upto £300, so will watch this site and fleabay.
    Thanks for the input, chaps.
     
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    Hi there,
    AVR280 includes most of the AVR350 technology inc HDMI switching. About £1000 would be about correct new, maybe as little as £800 second hand.


    I would be very surprised if you could get an AVR250 for just £300, that price is too low. They can now be had new for £549 or so as now discontinued, but most people will probably have paid £1k or so for theirs so you won't get many people willing to go very much below the £550 or so.

    The AVR250 is a great receiver, so it may be worth stretching your budget a bit to get it if you can.

    Regards,

    Dan
     
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    Thinking about a 200 for £200; whilst I'd like a 250, I need some speakers (centre & sub), plus the pre-amp, so I'll be cutting my cloth accordingly.
     
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    Interesting, and very nice to have two sets of MCH inputs (unlike receivers!)- do you know how much they charge?
     

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