attaching tv wall mount to brick wall?

Hi All,

I know that this should go into the wall mount / bracket section but it does seem very quiet over there. I am also not really looking for "what bracket" should I go for information, I have kind of already decided that. What I want to know is how am I best attaching the bracket / TV to the wall.

It is a solid brick (as opposed to this fluid, unstable ones you get :p) wall with a layer of plaster about 1" thick (it might not be plaster in the traditional sense as my house is circa 1890 - so maybe some kind of render with plaster over the top and may have been done long after the house was built).

I have 10 x 4" screws and my plan was drill the holes for bracket and use these screws. Obviously I have wallplugs. Links to both are below:

10 x 4" Screws - Screwfix
Wall Plugs Brown 4.5 - 6mm Drill Diameter 7mm - Screwfix

What do you think:
Are the screws suitable?
Are there other options vastly better?
I assume I do not need any wooden batons imbedded in the wall?

Thanks
Col
 

loz

Well-known Member
Does the wall mount /bracket not come with any fixings?

I always use the mounts from TLC and they come with all the hardware you need. :smashin:

Plasma & LCD TV / Monitor Brackets

Personally, I prefer the bolts they provide rather than screws. Less risk of wearing the heads out as you tighten them up.
 

aerodynamic18

Distinguished Member
Get wrall bolts. They are bolts with a metal cylinder type thing round the outside that expands as u tighten. If u use them the only way it's coming off is if the wall falls down. They are awesome :)
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
Threads like this always invite over-engineering. I suppose there is nothing wrong with over-engineering putting using massive fixings only adds a few quid to a project costing £100s.

But realistically 10 x 4" screws into brick is fine - reckon you could safely hang a mini cooper from that.

No battens - just go into the wall.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

IronGiant

Moderator
One thing you haven't said is what size and weight is the TV. If it's a 60" plasma you may want heavier duty fixings than for a 32" LCD.
 

nacmacfeegle

Well-known Member

Those^^^ or similar 'shield anchors' AKA expansion bolts, or also look at thunderbolts (masonry equivalent to self tapping bolts). At a couple of quid for a dozen or so....how much is your telly worth? Or what/who is it going to drop on?

That said, I don't think you have told us what size / weight the TV or what type of mount (eg a cantilever/swing bracket will need stronger mounts than a non adjustable one).

You said you had 10x4" screws, I'm assuming that you are talking about size 10 screws (about 5-6mm from memory). How many do you intend to use?

Personally I would not hang a TV on plastic 'rawl' plugs, not on old brickwork, and the plugs you listed are probably not long enough to take a 4" screw, those are about 2" long.
 

DR Kronenbourg

Well-known Member
Use thunderbolts, amazing for heavy loads, my gates are easy over 100kg each and I have three on each gate holding them up, you get all different sizes, perfect for hanging a big tv into brickwork.

What is Thunderbolt?

Believe me once there in nothing's moving.
 
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logiciel

Moderator
What does "the substrate becoming the nut to the bolt" on the link mean - how can substrate "become" a nut?:confused:

I don't really understand why this is a question at all - all you do is use the fittings - including bolts, not those screws - that come with the bracket to fix it to the wall.
 
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loz

Well-known Member
I don't really understand why this is a question at all - all you do is use the fittings - including bolts, not those screws - that come with the bracket to fix it to the wall.
That was my point earlier. Every mount I have purchased came with suitable fittings. (and always bolts not screws)
 

IronGiant

Moderator
I don't really understand why this is a question at all - all you do is use the fittings - including bolts, not those screws - that come with the bracket to fix it to the wall.
Simply because not all fittings are suitable for all walls and the OP is wisely asking what would be best to fit to a wall with an inch thick of plaster over the brickwork. I really don't understand why that is a problem at all :D
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
All you pessimists should go and check your kitchen cupboards. Full of tins and crockery, weighing more than a flat screen, bet they re attached to the wall with a lot less than the OP is suggesting.

Cheers,

Nigel
 
Holy crap... I looked At this about 2hrs ago before leaving work & thought "okay will deal with points when I get home!" now there are loads of posts. Need to read them all properly later as heading out now again.

Quick point i seen raised. My TV is a 42" Panasonic TH42PZ81 plasma so not a light LCD or LED i think it weighs about 30kg.. Could be wrong.

Also not looked at the wall mounts from TLC - do the do the brackets that allow the TV to come out from the wall?

I would like a bracket that does this but not sure what they are called? Also would this have any bearing on what to fix the bracket to the wall with?
 

loz

Well-known Member
Holy crap... I looked At this about 2hrs ago before leaving work & thought "okay will deal with points when I get home!" now there are loads of posts. Need to read them all properly later as heading out now again.

Quick point i seen raised. My TV is a 42" Panasonic TH42PZ81 plasma so not a light LCD or LED i think it weighs about 30kg.. Could be wrong.

Also not looked at the wall mounts from TLC - do the do the brackets that allow the TV to come out from the wall?

I would like a bracket that does this but not sure what they are called? Also would this have any bearing on what to fix the bracket to the wall with?
Do you mean a cantilever one? Premiere LCD / Plasma Cantilever Bracket 32 Inch - 50 Inch

I used a TLC non-cantilever premier model to mount a Panasonic TH42PZ81. It was perfect for the job.

If you do intend using a cantilever mount then you most certainly will want stong fixings as you are going to be putting a lot more strain on the mount, especially with a fairly heavy plasma model like that.
 

DR Kronenbourg

Well-known Member
That was my point earlier. Every mount I have purchased came with suitable fittings. (and always bolts not screws)
The bracket I bought came with fixings to fix to plaster and 4x2, there was nothing in there that I would confidently fix to brick/block work through which sounds like laughing plaster! In fact even they fixings I exchanged for my own.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
If a cantilever mount then you need some heft bolts because,

1) the bracket that connects to the wall are usually small so the screws/bolts will be close together rather than distributed

2) more importantly, the weight of the plasma on the end of the arm will be a huge turning moment on the bracket. The bracket will experience the equivent weight of more than one TV, plus it will be a turning/levering action rather than pulling straight down.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Sonic67

Banned
Make sure you are fixed into the brick and not the plaster. Tap the wall plugs in a bit. Part screw a screw in and tap the screw with a hammer. The screw and wall plug should be gripping the brick work. After that I take the view if I can hang off the bracket so can a TV.
 

loz

Well-known Member
The bracket I bought came with fixings to fix to plaster and 4x2, there was nothing in there that I would confidently fix to brick/block work through which sounds like laughing plaster! In fact even they fixings I exchanged for my own.
Mine came with all these



Including very sturdy bolts
 

DR Kronenbourg

Well-known Member
Mine came with all these

image


Including very sturdy bolts
Yeah that looks about right, the ones marked O in your pic look rather more substantial than came in mine, saying that I still wouldn't recommend them for going through laughing plaster into masonry personally, I wouldn't feel confident enough that you would have caught enough of the brickwork.
 

aVdub

Distinguished Member
My standard fixing stuff is left over from my Sky days. So that's 6 Sky dish bolts and 6 plugs.

Used that to hang my TV and its good enough to swing off.
 

loz

Well-known Member
Yeah that looks about right, the ones marked O in your pic look rather more substantial than came in mine, saying that I still wouldn't recommend them for going through laughing plaster into masonry personally, I wouldn't feel confident enough that you would have caught enough of the brickwork.
Well I used them to fix mine, now holding a 50" plasma



Honestly, they are in there so solid they feel like the house would fall down before they came out of the wall
 

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