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At last! 37" TRUE 1920x1080p LCD HDTVs in production

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by jrecampbell, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. jrecampbell

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    This would all seem like a pipe-dream were not for the US actually having these on sale, right now:

    http://www.syntaxusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=122
    37" 16:9 Cinema-Style Widescreen Aspect Ratio
    HDTV Display Ready (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p)
    800:1 High Contrast Ratio
    Wide UXGA 1920 x 1080 Resolution
    High Brightness 750 cd/m2
    12ms Response Time
    Dual Built-in TV Tuner
    PIP & Picture Grid Views
    Digital YC 3D Comb Filter
    HDTV, Progressive Scan Inputs
    176 / 176 Degree Wide Viewing Angles
    VGA (DB15) & DVI HDCP Inputs
    20W + 20W Surround Speakers

    And even at $3,000 from somewhere as well-known as buy.com:
    http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90139794&dcaid=1688

    I’m definitely holding off my LCD TV purchase at this point (having been researching for four months) for a UK 37” true HDTV panel (37" inch being a more sensible size and price point for this technology than the current Sharp 45” monster, the LC45GD1E: http://www.allders.com/id-6793/Product.go that I really can't justify). My next TV purchase will ideally have to last around 5 years and that’s way into UK HDTV territory, so a true 1920x1080 panel is the sensible route for me – it’s also a proper PC resolution (an option on my ATI card) unlike 1366x768 on the current panels with all the scaling and black bar/dot-for-dot compromises that entails. And to be honest it’s not far off time-wise – the Sharp G/Titanium series only took 5 months to come from the US to here this year. I can’t imagine any other required features other than it coping with native Europe 50Hz input and ideally a DVB-T digital tuner.

    From a bit of further research there now seem to be a couple of manufacturers already producing 37” true HDTV panels now which is great news. Just need some of the ‘quality’ plants like LG/Philips and Sharp to step up to this too. 37” true 1920x1080 has to be the consumer sweet spot for next year, surely.

    www.cmo.com.tw
    “CMO’s 37” LCD TV panel is true high-definition display panels, incorporating the Super MVA technology developed by CMO to achieve a high resolution of 1920 x 1080. The unit can achieve fast response time of less than 8 msec across all gray scale. Other specs: brightness > 550 nits, contrast; 800:1, power consumption < 150 W. 37” is a LCD size ideally suited for the average-sized living room. CMO expects to begin the mass production in the third quarter of this year.”

    http://www.auo.com/newsDetail.php?intTempId=1&intNewsId=166
    “Their [AUO's] latest 37" LCD TV model is featured with 1920 X 1080 HDTV high resolution, 800:1 high contrast ratio, and has Premium MVA technology of 170/170. Its 32" TV panel also has a high contrast ratio of 800:1, high brightness of 550 nits and the same Premium MVA technology of 170/170.”
     
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    Eeek! £7500 at Alders!

    In the USA, where there are now 3 models of 45" Sharp LCD available, I have seen them advertised for $5500 which is £3000. I think the aquos Titanium series here are overpriced (32" and 37" included). Maybe when the 45"ers are available here in quantity, and they have "non-premium" models in their range, they will come down to a more reasonable price.

    But the 37" models you have posted about do sound very exciting.

    James
     
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    To use this at 1080p, you would need HDMI or dual link DVI, otherwise your stuck with 1080i.

    -Ian
     
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    Hi Ian,

    Really? Apple's 23" display is 1920x1200 and apparently works with single link DVI:

    http://www.apple.com/uk/displays/specs.html

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    Yes, I just had to quote that link - quote astonishing the differential between the UK and the US. I'd be happy to pay up to £3K on a true 1080p 37" LCD but even then the US is right now paying around £1600 for the priviledge (albeit it for a 'no-name' manufacturer).

    I think Ian is right about HDMI - to be honest I'd be surprised if DVI lasted much into the next generation of panels given the simplicity and consumer integration of HDMI. Toshiba is already concentrating on HDMI with their current models.
     
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    Yeah, but teh new 30" Cinema Display needs Dual DVI (and a special graphics card - 6800 I think).
     
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    I thought dual link DVI was required for anything over 1600x1200. Well that makes the whole solution less expensive.
     
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    Take a look at:

    http://www.ebu.ch/trev_300-wood.pdf

    I believe we are at least five years away from enjoying source material at 1080p50, in the meantime I am enjoying my Sharp lc32gd1e, which is more than adequate for the near term. I will upgrade to a suitable alternative in about three years time.

    Regards,
    Tim
     

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