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Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by sjp1966, Aug 18, 2004.

  1. sjp1966

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    Hi

    I hope someone can help. i am confused with all the choice out there.

    I have been looking to upgrade my machine, I currently have an old AMD 1700+, 870Mb ram and a Radeon 9800 pro, on an abit mother board, and this is about as far as my knowledge goes.

    I went onto a website and chose a few components, like a new case, a psu, a new CPU and mainboard and ram. However I thought it would be a good idea to see how good the stuff I chose really was.

    I read a review on the mainboard, and the reviewer may well of been speaking Swahili as I could understand the basics, but I really could not tell if this mainboard was what I needed.

    Essentially I want to be able to say to someone, I have X amount to spend, I want farcry and doom 3 to look really good and not lag etc, what shall I get?

    Does anyone have any idea of any retailers (ref in or nr London) that will do this? :lease:
     
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    It depends how big X is......
     
  3. sjp1966

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    X would be about £450 to £500. I already have the radeon pro 9800 so i dont need a graphics card, but i will need a case (which ive already seen for £30.00) a mainboard, CPU, PSU, Fans and memory.
     
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    Hehe you have come to the best place to get a quote :)

    Just looking at www.komplett.co.uk I would suggest the following:-

    ASUS K8N-E DELUXE - 93
    Coolermaster Centurion - 40
    AthlonXP 3000+ - 109
    1024 Gb Corsair matched 3200 DDR - 165
    Antec Truepower (OCUK.com not sold at Komplett) - 60
    Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler (also OCUK) - 31

    That would bring you up to 500 quid :)

    That is the basic spec I would look for I am sure others can suggest alternative motherboards etc. and maybe cheaper prices.
     
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    Sinzer

    Thanks for this, you are a star. do you have any affiliation with this site (not that i mind i am just curious). also i read on the site that the MB is a raid board, is that something that is essential? what advantage would that give me? as i dont think i really need a raid board (depending what it does of course)

    I will need to speak to my accountant to see if i can move a little money, but apart from that i should be getting this within the next 6 weeks i hope

    Steve
     
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    i checked out some things on overclockers, as well as the komplett site mentioned above, so everything below bar the memory is from overclockers, and the memory from komplett

    Abit KV7 KT600 (Socket A) Motherboard
    Corsair TWINX1024-3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Kit w/two matched CMX512-3200 DIMMs
    FAN/Cooling (any good make)
    Akasa 460W Active PFC 12cm Fan Ultra Quiet PSU - Black Nickel
    AMD Athlon "Barton" XP3000+ 400FSB (Socket A) CPU - OEM

    total £429

    how does this look? is it a good set-up?
     
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    Hehe, no affiliation with the site :) I just have used them before in the past and have had no problems. I do tend to shop around though once I have the components I want to find the cheapest price.

    Your spec is ok, but you should really upgrade to Athlon64. The Barton core and the XP are two different chips and although they are specced at the same speed, the 64 is noticeably faster. This will become even more apparent when the 64bit windows is released and games like Doom 3 and HL2 have their 64bit versions compiled.

    If you need to get the price down to something nearer the 400 mark, I would recommend this :-

    Most from OcUK

    EPoX EP-8KDA3J Mainboard for Socket 754 nForce3 250GB,SATA,GbLAN,ATX,Sound (Komplett) - 67
    Antec Plus 1080AMG Metallic Gray File Server Case - 430W TruePower PSU (CA-001-AT) - 91
    Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 Kit (2x512MB) (MY-041-CS) - 129
    AMD Athlon 64 3000 (Socket 754) - OEM (CP-072-AM) - 110
    Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler - 31

    I think that would be an awesome system all for 428 quid :).

    TBH you will see a big difference between a barton 3000 and an Athlon64 3000, but will see little difference with faster memory.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3000_6.html

    Here it shows the Athlon64 3000 outperforms the Athlon 3200+ barton.

    I would also stick to a motherboard with the nforce3 250 chipset as this has the most features.
     
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    thanks again sinzer, that looks like the one to go for. :thumbsup:

    i took a look at the board and it has raid and on board sound etc. i wont have to use those options will i, as i hae my own sound card and i dont use raid anyway.

    also i had a look at the Coolermaster Hyper6 KHC-V81 Cooler (Socket 754/940 & Socket 478) (HS-014-CM) cooler, what do you think?

    i know this may sound like a dumb question, but i am pants when it comes to hardware

    thanks
     

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