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Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Sigismund, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Sigismund

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    How loud do you do you listen to DVDs? I listen to mine reasonably loud (it seems it peaks at about 96db), especially Blade DTS :smoke: , but does anybody know what the limits are before hearing damage can occur?

    Cheers,

    Sigs
     
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    I'm more concerned about the exhaust on my Aprilia :D :nono:
    Always wear earplugs - not practical for movies though.
     
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    It does cross my mind sometimes, the SPLevels do get quite high for reasonable lengths of time (as in, you certainly wouldn't be allowed to work in such surroundings without being made aware of the dangers).

    As a music fan first and foremost though, I'm more worried about all the concerts I've been to! 4ft Fingers in Camden earlier on this year left my ears ringing for 3 weeks, and I've still not quite recovered from seeing Rancid 2 weeks ago.
     
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    I normally watch movies at a max of -20, so 85dB, -25 to -30 is more common. So no :)
     
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    what's that you say, you'll have to speak up! :D
     
  6. Sigismund

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    Just as well I can lip read ;)
     
  7. Smurfin

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    Depends on the movie, as some soundtracks are brighter than others.

    Mostly, I listen between -10db to -05db, occasionally reference level, but again it comes down to the movie.

    LOTR for example I couldn't stand above -10db, the highs become too harsh, but I watched the pod race from SW Episode I the other day @ 00db reference, and I loved it:D

    Am I mad? Probably.
     
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    crumbs you guys must be mutton, I can't stand my system over -30db (approx 80 db according to my spl meter). It hurts at -20db & I'm sure the building would suffer structural damage at 0db.
     
  9. NicolasB

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    If you routinely listen to sound at a level where you're hearing is detectably less sensitive afterwards than it was before, you are definitely heading for permanent hearing loss.

    As someone who is partially deaf for genetic rather than environmental reasons, please believe me when I say that you have no idea how precious hearing is.
     
  10. Spoonman2

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    I have tinitus due to rock concerts I went to years ago, ears rang for two days once, now the only trouble is............ they haven`t stopped ringing since 1997 :rolleyes:

    Try getting to sleep with a bee in each ear, its about the same :suicide:

    Back to the point, I listen to films at about -30, and thats ok for me, but they are mostly different.

    Spoony.
     
  11. Lux

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    I have a sony amp and it only displays volume from 0 up to 40 (which is max) in that case I usually listen to at around 15.
    absolutely no idea how much that is in "-xxdb" or db.
    anyway according to my dad that is waaay too loud. but he usually comes in when there is an explosion (never during the quiet parts:()
     
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    If you had watched IRREVERSIBLE at -10db your ears would have taken a pounding as well as your house the bass is incredible on the opening soundtrack !!!!
     
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    What people need to remember is that -15, -10, 00, -40, +10....none of these figures mean anything unless in db unless you've calibrated your system with an SPL meter.

    Saying that, not even that means anything, as it ultimately comes down to what you're comfortable with.

    Cheers
    Matt

    PS BUY an SPL meter if you haven't already got one....you may be amazed how far off your channel levels are.
     
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    Auto-setup = win (and yes I checked it with an SPL meter, pretty much bang on).

    Anything over -20 on my system is LOUD. -10 is about the limit before the sound starts to get harsh. My ears will hurt if it's higher than -20 for more than a few minutes/seconds.
     
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    On my Sony strDB930 amp I have db settings on the EQ for bass, mid & treble on each of the five channels.

    It's not your average slider EQ, just fiddly digital settings!

    I haven't a clue what's the best setting.
    They're all set to around +4.

    On top of that there's db level settings for centre, real LFE mix and DTS LFE mix. Set to around +2, centre is usually higher as it's always quite low.

    And then there's the master vol.

    Far too many settings for my liking

    Any help would be appreciated.
    (Don't have an SPL meter)
     
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    I just put on the end of Con Air with SPL meter in hand at approx 90db (-25 on the dial) it was painful to listen to (mind you that coulsd be due to the awful "top Gun" soundtrack as much as anything) - if you're listening to films regularly at that level then I'd say that you are heading for hearing damage, and a peed off neighbourhood.

    As smurfin said get a meter
     
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    90db is like the sound of a 747 going over yourhouse (whioch happens 20times a day at home:( I doubt that me watching films will change anything.

    oh and isn't snoring (really bad one) somewhere in that region.

    And I certainly won't get an SPL meter (Where should I anyway??)
     
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    As someone who suffers from Noise Induced Hearing Loss
    having been exposed to high levels of sound in the workplace,
    all I can say is be carefull! The thing with listening to to loud
    music and films is that you probably won't notice any adverse
    effects for some time as the damage that is being done creeps
    up on you slowly.
    To me, my hearing appears to be fine most of the time but, as
    tests have proved, there are certain sounds that I can't hear
    (mainly the higher frequencies) whereas others can.
    Conversations, especially when there's background noise, can
    be difficult as it's the frequencies that are in peoples speach
    that are the one's I have most trouble with.
    It doesn't stop me from enjoying music and films though as what
    I can't hear might as well not be there in the first place.
    BUT, I do limit my exposure to loud noises as I don't want my
    hearing loss to become more of a handicap than it already is.
    There's some information on dangerous sound levels here......http://www.hei.org/news/factshts/nihlfact.htm
     
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    Whats reference on my Sony DB1080?? We usually listen at -40 though some films for some reason need the volume dial at -30 to -35.
     
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    Hang on a minute? Surely if you are regularly listening at -20 or -30 below reference level, you should calibrate at that level, which then becomes 0? I've calibrated at whatever Avia recommended, which is way too loud, but they mention that big differences in volume from that may be out of whack, as the different channels (esp. bass) won't respond in the the same way to the drop in volume

    so are all you calibrated people recalibrated at whatever your normal listening figure is?
     
  21. Daneel

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    What?

    You can calibrate at whatever you like, 75dB and 85dB are most common. All the set-up methods should produce 105dB at 0 on your receiver. Near the top end some channels might max out before others but there isn't much you can do about that.
     
  22. Gary D

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    i'd hate to have you as a neighbour!! :D :D :D


    Gary
     
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    Detached house, and soundproofed AV room:D

    Still, saying that...the floor of the room above the AV room actually shakes:eek:
     
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    Read my earlier post calibos
     
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    I got no idea dhow many DB i listen to . But my SOny Amp goes from 0-70 and i usually listen to dvds at 30 or 35 depends on the movie.
     
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    to quote the guy hanging on the wall in the jail cell in life of brian - "you lucky lucky bas**rd" :D :D :D


    Gary
     
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    my hears have been in pain for a while.
    the sub was set far to high.
    much that i liked the effect, my ears have said enough.
    i have re set the kit with sound meter and now the sub is
    adjusted to roughly 5db's above the sats.
    and im kind of thinking its a bit of a pussy now.

    basically sub to high = ear ache
    sub set to correct levels = not enough earth shattering oomph..
     
  28. graham.myers

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    I was concerned, so last week I handed over my tenner and got my hearing checked. its with in normal paramters - just

    so i'll nudge up the volume a little more
     
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    where did you get your ears checked.
    im sure the nhs wouldnt cover such a test would they ?

    i wouldnt mind knowing if my lobes were working to specification.
     
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    boots of all places. normally £25 but currently on offer for £10.

    Boots in Meadhowhall (sheffield) and Leeds are doing at the mo. not every boots has a hearing center - look online to find your nearest
     

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