We've all no doubt shed a tear that Panasonic Plasma is dead. Indeed possibly Panasonic will be soon totally dead as a TV manufacturer as their LCD's are nothing special and I doubt they'll turn things around. Add to that the fact that young people think they are an outdated joke brand their Grandad would buy compared to "cool" Samsung & LG & I would honestly be surprised if their TV business is still around in a couple of years. But really, are their final series of Plasmas all they are hyped up to be? Yes they get those reference level reviews. But on every board I go on all I hear are the following complaints: Dynamic false contouring, 50hz bug. Banding on some screens. Red blobs especially on the premium VT and ZT series after all the problems with Green Blobs the previous years, plus other wonky visual problems of various sorts, all of which Panasonic will claim is "the TV operating within spec." I would have to say I take particular issue at the 50hz problems and the way Panasonic fan boys try and make this out to be just because 50hz is a lower number than 60hz so of course it will create a problem. Funny how 50hz never created a problem on every CRT TV, LCD TV + Pioneer, Samsung, LG, Plasma and indeed Panasonic's own older Plasma TV's isn't it? Couldn't just be the real problem is that Panasonic couldn't be bothered to calibrate the set to 50hz Pal cause they don't value Europe could it? And Panasonic's "the TV is operating within spec" line on what are clear failings in the screen is just disgusting. They also have atrocious amounts of input lag on console games and according to some comments on the ST60 board this lag also leads to problems with synch on surround sound and other HDMI devices. All of the above is pretty embarrassing when you consider their older sets never suffered from these problems. Then on top of that you have the usual Plasma issues of image retention, phosphor lags, lack of brightness etc, etc, which just goes with the territory. I am at heart a Plasma fan and I always prefer their more natural colours and deep blacks to LCD. But are we all being a bit too fanboyish in our love of Plasma that we are looking past some pretty, well, totally disastrous problems just because these are the last Panny Plasmas. So the question is, with all these things wrong, plus Panasonic own delightful attitude of "the TV is operating withing spec" why are people really: 1) Shocked they went out of business? 2) Think these last Panny Plasmas are the best of the best good and the best you could ever want out of Plasma? 3) Is it really such a great loss Panny are dead when they just seemed to make flawed TV's every year? Let's face it many said when Pioneer died Plasma TV's in general died and...well I think they had a point. I understand Samsung might eventually have a final range of Plasma's on the way themselves, would it be possibly more prudent to wait for those than a Panasonic of shall we say questionable reliability?