I have read several posts on numerous threads referring to edits on hard drive recorders being less than seamless. Up to half a second of picture freeze, sound loss or a few extra frames doesn't matter when you are just editing out adverts from a tv recording. But when you edit camcorder footage for archiving to dvd-r or ram you need to have a smooth seamless join. A few extra frames (as the machine adjusts to the nearest I frame) would be OK or even a few lost frames, but NOT picture freeze or sound loss. Which of the hard drive DVD recorders is best at near seamless edits or are they all of a muchness on this point? What are the experiences of owners of Panasonic DMRE100, E85, Toshiba RDXS30 and 32, Pioneer 5100? Or do you have to go the PC route for this, in which case what use are the DV inputs on these machines?