Are OLEDs all they're cracked up to be?

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    1. wardieuk

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      I’m thinking about upgrading my 42 inch Plasma to a 55 Oled and to be honest, when you loook at reviews, there is no perfect Oled tv re Dolby Vision, HDR, motion, colour, brightness etc so I ask the question with 8k looming, is everyone moaning about minor issues with Oled, or are we just all getting mugged off by tech companies that actually can’t deliver ? Is an upgrade from Plasma to Oled worth it ? One day till BF, any views would be grateful
       
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      What do you mean with 8K looming?

      There aren't many channels in 4K yet. Hell, there aren't many in FHD, even!

      The upgrade will come from going from a 42 inch 1080p to a 55 inch OLED with little, if any, drop in sharpness.

      The LGs are generally the best all rounders in terms of HDR support. I also like their OS the most.

      If buying one, just get it from a reputable company :)
       
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      And before the grammar police get going, I know it should have read ‘they’re’ in the title :)
       
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      I’d say they are all they’re cracked up to be. They still have a few issues (some have slight tint/some bands/slight motion) but what tech doesn’t have issues (plasma & lcd, the list is long).
      If you invest you won’t be disappointed.
      If you gave me the choice one year on to hand back my oled for my lovely old plasma, I’d tell you to keep my old plasma, oled is staying !
       
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      I was awfully tempted... :p
       
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      I had to bite me lip!

      But to the question..….

      My 65 inch LG B7 OLED = Best TV I have ever owned :clap:
       
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      What are your viewing habits
       
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      Absolutely. For both the benefit of HDR and for the smart TV features.
       
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      I think the critical thing you have to consider is how long you want to keep an OLED. For sure, I believe you will experience some image retention after a few months or years, depending on your viewing habits. However OLEDs have arguably the best PQ, at the mo. Personally I stick with LCD's, as I want it to last for several years. That's just me. ( I hated my old plasma, btw - no blacks and a hot fan running all the time ! )
       
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      OLEDs are best TV's ever
      and tons of usable content from gaming to streaming

      no LCD compares imo
       
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      The thing that still impresses me is the black bars on films. Sad I know.
       
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      If you own the PERFECT PLASMA then you are entitled to pursue the PERFECT OLED. Otherwise, you need to be realistic with your expectations.

      I would say LG will be launching 8K OLEDs from 2019 or 2020 and 8K TVs will become a norm from 2020-2021 although we won't be seeing any mainstream 8K contents for a long time.
       
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      I personally disagree from the gaming point of view, nothing beats the Q9FN in that regards.
       
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      I think OLED are as good as 'they' say. The first time I saw an OLED it was as if someone had taken a good LCD and removed a veil from it. In well mastered content; lights actually look like a light source and the image seems almost 3D. I wouldn't buy anything else that is/has been on the market.
       
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      OP, if it helps, i wanted a tv/netflix lounge tele. I bought a £450 49" samsung VA panel, coming from a top drawer, ten year old 42" IPS screen. the upgrade even to this bottom wrung tele is really substantial. particularly what i'm impressed with is that despite our viewing distance (guess 4m at least) you can definitely tell without a doubt you're watching 4k (youtube) content that is amazingly crisp and vibrant. also it's really good at upscaling SD content, again, this despite being a tele not even good enough to review on tech sites.

      I found actually going to a large store and viewing different tv's with the same demo reel to be of most use, after all the research.
       
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      There was also never any perfect plasma TV's or LCD TV's all of them also had there little faults ;)
       
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      My wife and I tend to watch Netflix, Movies, Sky box sets and I like my sports. I appreciate the comments, like many other people I guess, I'm plunging for the LG 55 c8 because of all round general ability i.e. Dolby Vision. I think you guys have convinced me this weekend to take the plunge from the feedback so many thanks to you all
       
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      Great choice! Where are you planning to buy from?
       
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      One simple advice...
      Try to find a tv which you can play with in a half good environment...some shops may have dedicated room or can set it up for you..
      If I may, try the below:
      1. Read 2 good reviews and note basic settings
      2. Check some varied content and play them on your plasma
      3. Play same content on the oled...play with settings (point 1) and see what you like.
      4. Check motion..very important then colors and sharpness
      5. Check upscaling and streaming...YouTube, Netflix,...
      6. Check OS and sound

      List seems long but it is not...it is fun...but this will save you lots of surprises at home...
      Reason is simple...you coming from plasma (used to a certain type of picture) and at the end of the day, it is what YOU like...
      We are all different and oled like lcd fald have their pro and cons. It also depends on your use.

      Enjoy your tv whatever you buy
       
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      I've read this thread with interest, I still have my Sony KDL 55W905A going strong but I'm annoyed at Sony's lack of support for Amazon app and a few others. I'm in two minds whether to plump for a LG OLED or the Samsung F9 QLED in 55", however the story about burn in I have read on here is concerning me as my tv sits near the window where I do get a lot of sun at times during the day and I don't see why after spending a lot of money for a tv I should have to have concerns about logo's etc on programs I may watch...
       
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      As many oled owners will tell you, it is highly unlikely. If you watch tv normally, varying content from movies to game to tv to sports, burn in will not happen. OLEDs are no more susceptible, in fact even less so, than plasmas, yet people bought them in their droves.

      The sun on the screen will not influence burn in whatsoever. Burn in, or image retention is dependent on what you play. If you play games for long long periods of times with a static hud on the screen, don’t buy oled. If you’re going to watch the same news channel for long periods of time, don’t buy oled. If you or your family are prone to pausing a tv and running off, don’t buy oled. If you’re a regular tv watcher, who wants the best picture quality with the best blacks, colours, hdr, viewing angles and general wow factor, oled is perfect.



      Look at the oled burn poll. It’s such a non issue I can’t even describe.
       
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      As someone with a C6 OLED with burn in I have to disagree. I've been very careful with mine to avoid static logo's etc. My missus occasionally (probably 1-2 times per week before work for around 30 -45 mins) watches Good Morning Britain and that logo is burnt into the screen and has ruined what was an expensive TV. Only appeared in the last few weeks.

      The thing to remember is that burn in on OLED is cumulative. Check the other OLED Burn-in poll and you'll see that 2016 OLED's have a 1 in 4 chance at the minute of having burn in. I'd imagine in 2 years time, we'll have the same people saying burn in is not a problem, complaining that their expensive 2018 TV's are not fit for purpose.......

      Seriously think about how you use the TV and who else in the house uses it.
       
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      Look at the oled burn poll. It’s such a non issue I can’t even describe.[/QUOTE]

      If you look at the burn in poll, you will see that 30% of sets that are now around 2 years old are showing signs of burn in and yet you think it's a non issue?
       
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      Anyone know if the Samsung QLED F9 is suffering from issues similar to the LG's?
       
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      If you mean burn in then this is next to impossible as it is LED.
       
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      It's funny reading stuff like this because as recently as Sunday evening I would be in complete agreement but believe me it's only a non-issue, as you put it, until it happens to you.

      I'm glad your TV is fine at the moment and I honestly hope it stays that way but I strongly suspect this is going to be an issue going forward for a lot of people and for anyone to just dismiss it is stupid given the growing numbers of people reporting it.

      In my instance in a heavy viewing week I'd maybe watch 8 hours of Sky Sports News spread out over the entire week. Maybe that sounds like a lot to some people but to me it's crazy that a modern TV can't handle that amount for less than 2 years!

      Also sighting the poll as evidence of a non-issue is silly when the percentage of 2016 sets with burn in are so high given the 2017 & 18 models won't have the same amount of usage yet. I'd suggest coming back when they do and I would bet my house those numbers will be similar to the 2016 ones.
       
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      I agree mate
       
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      I am going to buy from JL or RS.
      Screen burn is something I’m not overly concerned about but interesting.
      Wouldn’t screen burn be covered by warranty ? Surely under ‘fit for purpose’ reasons after just 2-3 years. I would imagine unless you were informed of it prior to buying by the salesman who sells you the product then you could easily argue that you had no idea that even existed. That would be mis- selling on their part and would hold up in a small claims court in sure
       
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      Richer Sounds exclude it from their warranty under section O which says "Screen burn caused by channel logos or other static images"

      I don't know what JS's policy is nor if Richer Sounds would not help out as I'm currently in contact with them regarding my issue.
       
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      But are those more sencitive then plasmas? I have an old HD-ready 37" panasonic, must be more than 10years old by now, and there's no image retention. I've seen ghosting after watching a movie with subtitles and once and again when picture been letter-box but thats always gone next time I watch anything. Realy trying not to get a LG 55" oled now with black-friday pricingbut with 9 year old around and you-tube and all its scary.
       

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