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Archiving Sky+ using PC

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by sifowler, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. sifowler

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    I've recently ordered a Pioneer DVD Writer for my PC. I have Sky+ and would like to archive recordings. Is it possible to do this via the PC. And if so, what sort of connections / software will I need ?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
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    What formats does it burn in?
     
  3. sifowler

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    -R and +R
     
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    Hi,
    Using a panny E50 i have been archiving/editing the contents of my sky+HDD (MUSIC VIDEO'S TO BE EXACT) and transferring the data to ram disks then into the all format LG dvd recorder on my pc.....
    Using in my eyes the best/easiest editing/burning programme "TMPGEen" i have successfully edited each music video (removed all adverts seamlessly) with audio and burned onto dvd-r which plays perfectly on my dvd player.
    With this software you can easily make a proper dvd (including main menu, chapter menu, special features etc and you can import easily pictures/video's for the menu backgrounds!)
    If you only have a pc dvd burner then i'm unsure as to how you would connect the sky+ to the pc but i'm sure someone else can point you in the right direction.
    As for TMPGec software i cant praise it enough and you can download it for 30 day for free which gives you plenty of time to get used to it!
    Take a look @ the "sticky" thread @ the very top of the dvd recorder page for more details.

    Danny


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    Just to add that the TMPGec software accepts/reads without any probs dvd-r so you can edit them easily once youve burnt things from sky+ onto them.
     
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    Lots of discussions about this over on the Digital Spy PVR forum,

    http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/f/35/ds.html

    Needless to say there are many schools of thought about this............

    If you just want to take a raw archive, or only want very basic editing / authoring capabilities (i.e. clipping out the ads) you can do this with a DVD recorder.

    Alternatively you go the route you have chosen, via PC. To get the video stream onto the PC, you need some sort of capture capability. This could be built into your graphics card, a separate PCI card, or a USB device. There are two main capture formats, AVI and MPEG. Simplistically, AVI is uncompressed, whilst MPEG is the compressed format used within DVDs. You need a lot of free disk space to play with video, but it's much much worse if you use AVI. Whatever sort of capture device you, and whatever format it is captured in, the video material has to be compressed before it can be written to a DVD.

    Some people like to do any editing in AVI because, being uncompressed it seems to be easier to handle the complexities of the process, but there are perfectable acceptable MPEG editors if you are not planning to do anything really complicated.

    Authoring software takes your video material and prepares it for burning. This is the point where you add menus to your DVD etc.

    The final stage of burning to DVD+/-/R/RW can usually be done from the authoring software, but some prefer to leave it to a specialist burning product such as Nero.

    An alternative approach being used by some is to use a standalone DVD recorder to create a raw copy. Then load the material onto the PC by "ripping" the raw DVD, (i.e. reading it), editing and authoring on the PC, and then burning what is effectively a second copy. Twice as many dvd disks involved, but some prefer this approach.

    The good news is that you may already have most of what you need. Your graphics card may be able to do video capture. If you've bought a retail DVDR drive, you may well get the editing and authoring software, and even the burning software thrown in for free.

    The bad news is that you get what you pay for, and even if you have some or all of the above already, chances are they are fairly limited, or near to useless.

    For me, the most important link in the chain is the MPEG compression. If you work in AVI, then the compression to MPEG format can be very time consuming, as well as disk consuming. If you have money to spend, spend it on a decent quality capture device, but I would recommend that it captures straight to MPEG. There are a number on the market at a variety of prices.

    Me, I use a Dazzle DVC2 Mpeg capture card (sadly discontinued) with an S-Video feed from my Sky+, I edit using the Moviestar application that came with the DVC2, but there are better ones about. Try Womble.

    I author using Uleads DVD Workshop and burn using Nero

    It all works for me!!!!!!
     

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