arcam fmj 27 vs denon 5000 dvd!

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wavimm

Guest
HI,
I can buy, second hand, the 27`and sell my denon 5000.
Is the arcam better than the denon?
Please help. Thanks!
 

spiderv6

Standard Member
I don't understand the question.

Better acording to what? My opinion? A magazine review?

It is better if it sounds better to YOUR ears. Listen to it and compare it.

That is the only way you will ever know.:rolleyes:
 
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shadow

Guest
I think he wants some opinions from people who have had the opportunity to compare both players. I have not heard either so I cannot help, but I assume others here have the requisite experience to do so.
 

spiderv6

Standard Member
I think you missed the point (or I was rather obtuse...:rolleyes: )

The point is, how it sounds to me, or you, is not the same as how it sounds to the guy asking the question.

In otherwords, you have to listen to it with your own ears in order to make a decision. There is no point asking others.....

I hated the Tag DVD32 because I though it sounded too bright. Others love it to pieces because of its transparency.

Get it?:smoke:
 

General Skanky

Well-known Member
Well, I'd thoroughly recommend the DV27.

I believe it sounds excellent and also produces first class pictures via component output.
 

Miron

Active Member
Originally posted by spiderv6
The point is, how it sounds to me, or you, is not the same as how it sounds to the guy asking the question.
This is the only truth, I'll second that! No way around demo.


Originally posted by spiderv6
I hated the Tag DVD32 because I though it sounded too bright. Others love it to pieces because of its transparency.
This is either wrong written (I assume it was) or simply ridiculous statement.
DVD32R does not sound this way or another. It is your AV32R that "sounds" . DVD32R is a drive, it can not influence the sound so much. FMJ27 is clearly on the other side if you use its analogue outputs, Arcam CD players even more than thath, but if used as drive only the sound will simply have the same character with very small variations.
And TAG SyncLink does not make a big difference there either.
 

spiderv6

Standard Member
So, following your logic, I should have just bought a 50 Euro DVD player from the supermarket as it is only a drive and makes no difference?


:nono:
 

RaceTripper

Standard Member
Originally posted by Miron
This is either wrong written (I assume it was) or simply ridiculous statement.
DVD32R does not sound this way or another. It is your AV32R that "sounds" . DVD32R is a drive, it can not influence the sound so much. FMJ27 is clearly on the other side if you use its analogue outputs, Arcam CD players even more than thath, but if used as drive only the sound will simply have the same character with very small variations.
And TAG SyncLink does not make a big difference there either.
I disagree. I upgraded from a Marantz DV7100 DVD player to the Arcam DV88 Plus. Nothing else changed: same AVR, same cables (component video + digital audio), etc. The improvement in sound was just as dramatic as the improvement in video.

I think it's a mistaken belief that, "digital is digital," so there can't be differences from one implementation to the next. That is just not true. My ears can tell me that well enough.

Dean
 

Miron

Active Member
spiderv6 , I knew you will answer this way.

No, of course not, but from some decent design level the sound (might be slightly different) still has same character.

For cheapo drives, it is somewhat different, but we were not talking about 50 € players here.

Dean, are you using them as a drive or as a player?
(We are basically talking about sound differences when playing CDs)
 

RaceTripper

Standard Member
My statement referred to using the Mrantz and Arcam DVD players for DVD movies, not for audio CD. I have played a CD or two via the analog outs, but I was talking about sound from the digital out (on both players) with DVDs.

So I'm saying that my Marantz and Arcam sound very different with DVD movies and digital audio output.

Dean
 

lowrider

Standard Member
I have done several player tests, only as transport using the processor´s DACs, as I wondered if my FMJ DV27 was good enough for the rest of the system, it is the cheapest part of it... :blush:

First we compared with cheaper players, Sony, Pioneer, Onkyo, Marantz, Toshiba, Arcam DV88, no name, etc... It sounds clearly better playing both DVDs and CDs, the DV88 in between the FMJ and the best of the others, the Toshiba 220 a disapointment, the no name just didnt play music... :rolleyes:

Then the tough tests, against the TAG and a TEAC CDT highly tweaked, surprise, changing cables, digital and power cord made more difference than the transports... :eek:

So I am convinced, that it will take a lot of money to improve on my DV27, and that it does sound much better than the cheaper competition, of course I didnt test everything, but I think enough to make my point... :smoke:
 

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