Arcam DV88+ or DV89

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    Any advice appreciated. I am slowly setting up my home cinema. I have a panasonic 42" viera and sky plus. My next purchase is a dvd player. After reading reviews and talking to people I am considering Arcam DV88+ available for £499 or Arcam DV89 for £599. I gather the only difference is DVD-A. Sorry to be thick but what is DVD-A and which of the above 2 would you get?

    Many thanks.

    PS can get DV89 locally whilst would have to travel for DV89.
     
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    DVD-A is DVD-Audio which is basically multichannel music on DVD. TO get the full resolution you need to play them on DVD-A players. They will usually play on a DVD Video but in a Dolby Digital or DTS lower resolution mix which is not as good as normal stereo quality but does provide the multi-channel. I've not listened to any DVD Audio discs so can't personally comment on whether or not they are any good. There is a limited choice of discs and from reviews and comments on forums most people are not that impressed with the multi-channel mixes. Having said that a good DVD-A player such as the Arcam is meant to make a big difference to the sound. A DV88+ can be upgraded to a DV89 but it would probably cost more than £100. Depending on how far you have to travel I'd just go for the one that is available locally (not sure which as you say DV89 for both) as they'll both give excellent CD and DVD video playback (I've been assured, I've not got one myself).
     
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    Thanks for that. Should have said can get DV88+ locally. Perhaps will go with that. I presume that arcam are coming out with new player as there seem to be bargains about for DV88+ and DV89.
     
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    £350 for upgrading a DV88+ to DV89... not had mine done as the DVD-A selection is crap, I have a few but I am quite happy with the 5.1 track.
     
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    Off the subject, a question for all Arcam DVD player owners:
    Is it true that they are quite 'noisy' machines? I read somewhere that the build quality is great, but the actual mechanics i.e laser mechanism, do not run very smoothly. Is this true or utter rubbish? I find it hard to believe as I used to have an Arcam amp and it was faultless. I always thought they made real high quality components?
     
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    hi there, my DV88+ is not noisy - but thats only my one :)

    I would get the DV88+ if its close by. Its a great player and as the others have said - the dvd audio collection is pretty rubbish. Don't discount its stereo abilities either so make sure you have a good stereo amp and speakers if possible.

    CaM
     
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    Like most manufacturers Arcam don't make their own transport. I think they use Sony transports (correct me if I'm wrong). What manufacturers like Arcam do is take the standard parts (such as transports) and add high grade audio components (DAC, power supply etc) which is where the improvements in sound quality (and increase in price!) come from. The DV88+ has been discontinued but the Arcam DV89 hasn't (at least officially as it's still listed as a current product on their web site). The new players are the DV78 and DV79 (if I remember correctly). The DV79 has an HDMI interface.
     
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    Only had an 88+ for a few weeks but it is by some way the quietest player that I have ever had, especially when playing cds. By comparison my Tosh 330 used to sound as though it was tunnelling to the centre of the earth.
     
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    We actually use DVD drives from Digital Video Systems (DVS) in common with a number of other specialist manufacturers. They are the best ATAPI A/V drives we have found (you cannot use computer drives in this application) but it would be fair to say that their early efforts, about 3 -4 years ago, did have a number of issues. The drives we have been using for the past couple of years (including all DV88 Plus and onwards) have been fine.

    Fordster's comments would be broadly correct for our CD players - DVD units are much more complex. We use Zoran MPEG decoders (a shorthand name for the very complex SOC that is the heart of a DVD player; Zoran arguably design the best there is) and design and build all our own circuitry around this; we also write a great deal of the microprocessor code used to operate the whole system. Incidentally it costs Arcam big bucks (around $500,000 per year) to keep this kind of design effort going. By contrast nearly all OEMs will use standard reference designs from their MPEG decoder supplier - these are designed for minimum cost rather than performance.


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