apple HD trailers....

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  1. oasisnut

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    hi guys,
    i have just downloaded a load of HD trailers from apple.com/trailers.
    now, i have downloaded them onto my computer ( ps3 not hooked up to broadband...yet).
    so if i burn these.mov files to a dvd and whack them into the ps3, will i be able to drag them onto the ps3 HDD and play them in High def?

    cheers
     
  2. Moogle

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    No you need to convert the files first from .mov to .mp4 format first. You can use Quicktime Pro or PSPVideo9/PS3Video9 to do this. Quicktime Pro you have to pay for but PSPVideo9 or PS3Video9 can be downloaded for free.
     
  3. oasisnut

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    bugger... iam on mac and its not available!!!!... not paying for quicktime pro... any other ideas?
     
  4. Moogle

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    I haven't used it but a few others have recommended it here. It's called ffmpegX for the Mac. You could try that. Here is the link ...

    http://homepage.mac.com/major4/
     
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    To be fair, it's only £20 and worth it.
     
  6. oasisnut

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    just trying this app....
    what does the endcoding actually do, this app appears to have encoded a clip in less than a second, can that be correct?
     
  7. Moogle

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    Difficult to explain really. I think in the case of going from .mov to .mp4 it doesn't convert the content but just the file format so the PS3 can recognise and read it.
     
  8. oasisnut

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    i have ended up with a zero Kb file that ends with .mp4 and the .mov file seems untouched.
    do the 2 have to sit together and the ps3 will see the .mp4 and read from the .mov file or somthing.....
    (i think iam doing this all wrong):confused: ....
     
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    Have you tried iSquint or VisualHub to convert your video if you don't have QTPro. Search www.macupdate.com for them.
     
  10. Moogle

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    I haven't used the software so I can't help. I've got a Powerbook but I also have a Windows desktop so I usually use PSPVidedo9 or PS3Video9. Hopefully someone else with more experience with that software can help. Did you follow the download and installation instructions to the letter ?
     
  11. Moogle

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    You have to pay for Visual Hub just like with Quicktime Pro.
     
  12. oasisnut

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    does isquint do 1080i .mov files > 1080i .mp4 files for ps3 playback?

    using visual hub.v1.23 seems to be working..... hope it keeps the res at 1080i though......
     
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    seconded
    one of the best i have used so far, only i got it cheaper a few years ago :D
     
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    are you sure that you need quicktime pro for mpeg-4 exports on the mac?
    i can't tell because i've got pro installed but i don't think you would need it.

    besides of that visual hub really is great and worth spending the money.

    p.s. if visual hub doesn't keep the resolution try setting it in the advanced settings window. you only have to fill in what you want off default settings, rest will be, well, default.
     
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    Or.....Sony could understand it's users needs, realise they are regularly using this format, and make the format available ASAP with a codec in the next update, which by rights, should have been on the machine from day 1 :rolleyes:
     
  17. oasisnut

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    well... got it done to mp4 but ps3 says its an unrecognisable format......
    iam running v1.5 ps3 operating system ( not on broadband yet) could this be the reason its unrecognisable?
    doeas v1.7 recognise mp4 files, or am i just getting it wrong?
     
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    I've been able to convert and play it on my PS3, but the quality is below par... lots os macroblocks
     
  19. Moogle

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    I think you're doing something wrong as even 1.5 should recognise and play back .mp4 files.
     
  20. oasisnut

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    do the files have to be burnt into a folder called 'video' for the ps3 to recognise them?
     
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    it helps, they show up automatically if they're in a folder called video :smashin: if they're not, you can click triangle and display all, and it'll show all the videos in the particular folder
     
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    This may be a pleseant suprise, itunes converts .mov files to mp4 perfectly, I use it for all my HD trailers.
    Drag the .mov into itunes, right click on it and select convert for ipod and viola - there you have it :thumbsup:
     
  23. oasisnut

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    shin... thast great news... i will try that now!!!!
    cheers.
    keeps the quality 1080p then?
     
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    Shin-Kaiser's method of using iTunes to convert for iPod is not recommended. Firstly it takes a lot longer than the few seconds QuickTime Pro does (more like 10 minutes or so), and secondly it scales the video down from 1080p to 640xwhatever by re-encoding the video component. That's because the iPod cannot currently handle video playback above 640x480 (before the latest firmware it would only handle 320x240). Even using an export to AppleTV option would not help as that would take the source video down to 720p.

    As an example, using Shin-Kaiser's system, I "converted" the 1080p Stardust trailer in iTunes and ended up with an M4V file of resolution 640x266, compared to the original running at 1920x800 (yes, it's not 1920x1080 but QuickTime omits letterboxing - it's still full HD!). A substantial loss of quality I think you'd agree going down the iTunes route. It's even lower resolution than Standard Definition television (720x576). Not a good showcase for HD trailers and a complete waste of time - you might as well download the 480p trailers and convert them if you're going to do that.

    The easiest way is to buy QuickTime Pro 7... it's only £20 which is small change considering how much you've spent on a PS3, games, controllers, cables and what not - and QT Pro is a very useful toolkit for videos in general; editing, exporting, capturing live video, saving movies off the web. It's a bargain at the price and easily extensible with DivX codecs and so on.

    Once you've got your QT7 Pro registration key, just open the HD movie from Apple.com trailers in Quicktime and select Export... and choose "Movie to MPEG-4" as the export option. Open up the settings for the export ("Options...") and set the Video and Audio to "Pass through" and then export the movie as an MP4 file.

    This will literally take seconds as there is no re-encoding of video or audio whatsoever (unlike the other options people have listed here - though I think ffmpegX does support Passthrough but the interface isn't the best or most clear in the world).

    All QT Pro does is strip the Apple .mov container format from the MP4 data (H.264+AAC) in the trailer leaving you with a raw MP4 file usable on Windows, Mac, Linux, PS3 and any other system - all at full resolution with no added macroblocks from dodgy transcoders. You will end up with a full 1080p MP4 which will look exactly the same as the original 1080p QuickTime because it is exactly the same file - only the container has been changed, the actual audio and video data was simply "passed through" unchanged.

    Simply throw the resultant MP4 file on a device of your choice (CF, MS, SD, USB flash drive) and play/copy on PS3. This works every time and is incredibly fast and simple to do - I regularly do it to enjoy the latest 1080p trailers from Apple.com on my projector.

    Stick with a simple QuickTime Pro MP4 Pass Through export and you'll always end up with the same full HD content that was in the source - the only thing you may have to do is occasionally re-encode the Audio component if the Pass Through option isn't available (e.g. 5.1 AAC streams sometimes need to be reencoded to Stereo) but even that is fast and more often than not isn't required at all.
     
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    Im going to agree with radharc on this one. Using quicktime pro is the best option to go for and will give an excellent result. I suggested ffmpegX on another thread as I know it will appeal to more people as its freeware. Although its a much more complicated application to use so a bit time spent on the faq page will help. ffmpegX supports passthrough also so its really up to what app you feel more comfortable with.
     
  26. oasisnut

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    giving itunes a whirl first coz i have it anyway.
    looked simple enough to do... will let you know the results tommorow when i have tested the files on't ps3
    thanks everyone!!!
     
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    well, i used itunes... didnt work:mad:
    i put it into itunes, coverted to mp4 but the ps3 still says 'unrecognisable file format)
    bummer, looks like i am getting quicktime pro
     
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    I've got QT Pro and opened the POTC 3 1080p trailer in it,opened "export" and selected the options,but "pass through"isn't available-any idea why??
     
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    Did you download it from the apple site. I think all have mine from there have had the option for Pass through on Video but not always on audio
     
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    Ah,no-will try that!Cheers.
     

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