Are you sure it is not because you are really running these boards on apple hardware/software and are constraintIccz said:Procedure, every time a thread hits 1000 posts we have to start a new one
Or pay much less either for an apple Tv and nas or a revo or similar. If it's just for media duties I really don't get how a mac mini makes sense.davidwatsonok said:Not all Apple fans are sheep trapped in the constant upgrade cycle. My Mac is a teenager, bought in 1999 and still in daily use. I can't justify an iPhone even though I'd like one, so have an Android which was free on my £10/m contract.
Given the age and spec of my old Mac I am due to upgrade soon with a new Mini to be used as part of a media set-up connected to the TV, and I'd love an iPad to work alongside it as well as provide some new functionality that would be useful in my work. Just need to find £1.8k to pay for it all.
Yup price wise they are always very expensive, I'm sure some people will say you only get what you pay for but if your playing a lot less for something you can accept a few teething problems!nonumb said:I do think apple products are great and do look good but I just can't see myself buying any. I was ready with an open mind when I got my new phone and between the 4s and the galaxy s3 there was no competition, the iPhones was lower spec less comfortable in the hand and more expensive.
Or pay much less either for an apple Tv and nas or a revo or similar. If it's just for media duties I really don't get how a mac mini makes sense.
Ipad fair enough there are alternatives but I do understand the ipad still rules the roost for the price band.
I would buy apple products if there wasn't something cheaper which does the same thing. Often with more options open. What does annoy me is when my friends say oh a MacBook Pro is amazing I have to buy one when they are comparing it to a £250 laptop they bought a few years ago. Yes they are very good but the same people wouldn't consider a high end non mac machine. They are only considering it because of the hype not because they have analysed their needs and budget and got the best think for it (which may well be a mbp).
Someone was telling me about how amazing their MacBook air was and how it was so much better than my netbook, granted it is better but they only went online and on office with it. Mine cost £180 with a 64gb ssd and theirs cost £1k or whatever. Of course it's going to be better but 5x better for Internet and office? Not convinced. Btw this was a couple of models ago.
I had a friend who was amazed with imovie and he was telling me how amazing it is, it's not a new thing! The same sort of thing has been around for years and years.
I guess that's where apple are good getting the tech into the hands of people who won't do any research. (Not saying all people who own apple products are the same.)
Updates too regular?(v) Updates are too regular. You spend £500 on a new device and in less than a year it is obsolete, replaced with a new model. At first it was justified because there were some big advances, but now Apple are continuing the practice with updates which are little more than cosmetic. I don't get drawn into the upgradeitus but all the same feel pretty bad to know that my 6 month old purchase is no longer the latest model.
Umm, I'm not sure about that one, but then again the product lists are a much slimmer with apple. HTC cover the market in 20 different handsets to suit all types of users, whereas apple hit the nail on the head with aesthetics!Updates too regular?
Which mobile manufacturers dont release updated hardware every 12 months?
And why do they become obsolete?
My GF has my old iPhone 3GS, almost 4 years old running the lastest version of iOS. I have mates with Andriod phones that most likely won't see an update. Apple support legacy iphone hardware a lot more than any other mobile manufacturer.
Obsolete as in 'no longer produced' - a factual definitionAnd why do they become obsolete?
Mind you our iPod touches have become truely obsolete in a way because Apple have continued developing the operating system but not included older iPod Touches. So when you go to the app store it is quite common to find applications that won't run on it because they need a newer IOS.Which mobile manufacturers dont release updated hardware every 12 months?
Agree.I don't see the problem with annual upgrades, so long as previous models still work and are still supported. Sure, this years Nano might not be much different to the one you bought last year, but so long as last years still works, is still supported and still does a good job (which of course it does if you're saying the difference between that and the new one is minimal) then what's the problem?
The only thing I can see is the personal dissatisfaction of not owning the latest model, but unless you bought it as a fashion statement, or a statement of wealth, that's quite an odd thing to get upset about. Nothing stays new forever, be that gadgets, clothes, cars, houses or anything else.
I'd be more annoyed if I had bought something, a smartphone perhaps, on a 24-month contract only to find the manufacturer stopped supporting it with updates before my contract had ended. The least I expect is the manufacturers commitment to match my own.
Talking about the iPad in particular - that hasn't even been around for years.Then use one of the other many browsers that have been available for years
touch 4th gen - sep 2010I don't see the problem with annual upgrades, so long as previous models still work and are still supported.
iPads have been available for over two years, and Desmo has already mentioned iCab as an alternative browser (in the post you quoted). There is also Atomic Web which I use.nheather said:Talking about the iPad in particular - that hasn't even been around for years.
As far as I know Safari and Chrome are the only ones available on the iPad.
I know it is - it is just that when someone says something has been around for years, it normally means a long time not just a couple of years.iPads have been available for over two years
Can you install iCab and Atomic Web as proper browsers - i.e. they become the default browser?Desmo has already mentioned iCab as an alternative browser (in the post you quoted). There is also Atomic Web which I use.
Surely the word years just means more than one year.nheather said:I know it is - it is just that when someone says something has been around for years, it normally means a long time not just a couple of years.
Can you install iCab and Atomic Web as proper browsers - i.e. they become the default browser?
If not then my comment still stands. I didn't say there was anything wrong about Safari (I'm happy to use it) just that Apple put deliberate restrictions in place to limit the effectivity of other browsers. That's my point - that they don't freely let you choose which browser to use - and given they took MS to court to force them to do just that, I think that is pretty much double standards.
Remember, that Apples complaint about IE wasn't that you couldn't have other browsers - you could even before the complaint was made, you could even install others properly so that they became the default browser. No Apple's complaint was that IE came with the operating system and you couldn't uninstall it which meant that customers were more likely to use IE. Now forgive me if I'm wrong but after all that bleating Apple seem to be doing the exact same thing but even more prohibitive than MS ever were.