My Onkyo 608 is out of action due to my Beresford speaker switch connecting it to another amplifier (can't blame the Onkyo for that I suppose). I may be able to fix both of them, but anyway . . . . . . I was previously thinking of upgrading the AV amp, not that the 608 did a bad job at all - was very good really, especially considering the price. I'd like one which has pre-outs for all channels so that rules out all the lesser models than the 818 I think. My basic needs are for pre-outs for all channels, Dolby Pro Logic IIz (front high), ARC and the ability to handle 4 ohm speakers as well as my 608 did. I've looked at quite a few including the Anthem models - which seemed good at first but maybe not for 4 ohms. Any other suggestions? I think my price limit is somewhere around £1500 as I don't really use my cinema system very often really, so don't want to go silly.