Anyone want a broken PV1?!

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  1. Freightmaster

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    All,

    I bought a B+W PV1 a couple of months ago from a reputable seller on Ebay.

    Now, the sub is (was!) a fantastic piece of kit, but despite being state of the art,
    it just isn't a patch on my old REL Storm (Mk.I) when it comes to sheer welly...

    A couple of nights ago, while the wife was out, I had cranked it up to my
    'old' listening level, and was enjoying a film when it went BANG :eek:

    I had a look and the 3.15A glass fuse had literally exploded! :oops:

    So yesterday, I bought a replacement fuse from Maplin and fired
    up the sub again, but as soon as I plugged it into the mains, there
    was a flash from the fuse holder and the ring main circuit breaker tripped...

    I always thought that the protection circuits and quick-blow fuses built
    into modern subs meant that it was virtually impossible to ruin an active
    sub just by driving it too hard?

    I'm thinking of replacing it with a Velodyne SPL1200 - will this have the
    same problem, or can I feed it reference levels without causing 'meltdown'? :rolleyes:

    Without a receipt, I not sure how easy it will be to get the PV1 repaired,
    so does anyone want to buy it from me for a nominal fee and sort it out
    themselves?

    ~ MARK ~
     
  2. paulst10

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    hi, have you rang b&w yet to see how much it will cost to repair ??

    tel. 01903221500
     
  3. Ian J

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    No sub should just explode from "too much volume" so I'd guess that there is a fault somewhere. It will probably be cheaper to get the PV1 repaired rather than write off the cost and buy something else.
     
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    B&W have a very good reputation and i am sure they will sort out the problem very quickly for you so do not right it off as broken....
     
  5. kishoo

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    Having installed a fair few PV1's over the last year, this is the first that i have come accross that has ceased to operate in such a spectacular way !!

    As stated by previous members, do not write it off, instead contact B&W or one of their local sales agents who will send the unit off for evalution and repair...


    Kishoo
     
  6. Nimby

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    Freightmaster

    It would be useful information to share your experiences in getting the sub repaired. :smashin:

    If you intend to run a sub at true reference level one might suggest something much larger and much more powerful. :cool:

    You have discovered there is no free lunch in choosing a lifestyle item. :lesson:

    Just because you can turn a knob round on your kit doesn't mean you should! :nono:

    In fact the fuse blowing may be "somebody's" way of telling you that you can't cheat physics. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Freightmaster

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    Thanks for your feedback, everyone - I'll get in touch with B+W.

    I realise that it was 100% my fault, but I thought that the worst
    that could happen would be the fuse blowing, not the entire thing! :(


    ~ MARK ~
     
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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
    One of life's not so cheap lessons
     
  9. Nimby

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    A bit like a car really.. :rolleyes:

    "Pedal to the metal" may be fun but usually has it's consequences. :suicide:
     
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    although normally when you put your foot to the floor, the engine doesn't explode and take out a load of street lights in the process!
     
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    Hi,
    had the same thing happening to me on my Cambridge Soundworks 510D (PC Sub with 5 sats.). Several fuses exploded, I talked to Creative (which is the ditributor) and they offered a 550THX as replacement, no questions asked. Didn't need to return the faulty unit either. Now, that is service.
    Apparantly the fault was in the transformator in the unit, not sure. On your PV1 it could just a £50 repair, so I wouldn't dismiss it untill I'd talked to B&W.
    Good luck.

    Cheers.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback, everyone - I'll get in touch with B+W.


    Aw shucks, and I was hoping to get another sub to play with...

    Hope you get it sorted,

    Dave
     
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    Freightmaster,

    I agree with everyone else in that it would definitely be worth looking into having it fixed, however if you do decide to play the old "Oh goodness, looks like i need a new sub, dear" card to your wife/partner, drop me a PM - i might be interested in taking the broken fella off your hands.............;) :D
     
  14. Freightmaster

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    Too late, it's gone to meet it's maker (B+W) now!

    However, I think I will still sell it if/when it is repaired,
    as it was a bit too 'polite' for my tastes - as per my original
    post, I'm leaning towards a Velodyne SPL-1200R, as the wife
    won't tolerate anything bigger! :rolleyes:


    ~ MARK ~
     
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    OMG!!!

    I've just had the repair estimate back from B+W...

    ...£373.63! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    I must say that I'm not impressed with this at all - only six weeks
    or so of use and it fails completely - £800 down the damn drain,
    plus the £33 it cost to send it to B+W by UPS!! :( :( :( :(

    I don't see why B+W subs are so respected on here if they
    self-destruct so easily - don't the amps have protection
    circuits built in to prevent them from cooking themselves?

    In the absence of any other suggestions, if anyone wants to pay
    the £373 to have it repaired, they can have it for free, but for
    God's sake don't try and play it loud like I did... :rolleyes:


    ~ MARK ~
     
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    if i were you, i would try taking this up with the ebay seller. no electronic equipment should fail like that. that said, its probably too late for ebay to fight your cause - if it blew up with a few days then it would probably have been a different matter...
     
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    As with any manufacturer, you will get the odd one which will fail, your just unlucky.
    I have had my B&W speakers for over a year with out a problem ( touch wood )
    I guess thats why we have garuntee's to safe guard us against any defects which may occur
     
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    I'm determined to get something positive out of this nasty experience
    with B+W, if it killls me... :rolleyes:

    ...so I've given my wife the sob story that the 'cute' speaker which
    she insisted I buy has left me £800 out of pocket as it wasn't up to
    the job, and unless I get something a lot bigger, the next one will
    probably self-distruct too!

    The Result? Someone will be coming to see me in a week's time with a shiny new DD-15. :thumbsup:

    Two years worth of AV budget gone in a flash, but I'm sure
    that the DD-15, once properly calibrated, will have enough
    headroom to blow half a dozen PV1s away! :devil:


    ~ MARK ~
     
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    If the offer's still open, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands!:lease:
     
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    Depends on the car... :D
     
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    replied to ur pm freightmaster.will sort with b&w tomoz
     
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    My first PV1 blew its glass fuse into a million pieces with less than 5 minutes use out the box at low/medium levels. With a new fuse it just went click click click like it was turning on and off repeatedly.
     
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    £373 for a repair? Come on! For 373 squid you could buy a couple of decent plate amps. Stick them on the back of your PV1 and it could all get a bit Blue Peter. :eek:

    Next time somebody asks nicely about this particular B&W product what can we possibly say?

    It's a load of bålls? But it's good at fireworks? :oops:

    B&W 0 Rest of the world 1. :rolleyes:

    Haven't they heard of AV Forums down at B&W HQ? :suicide:

    :devil:
     
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    You have a PM!! :thumbsup:
     

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