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Anyone know anything about Monster SCART leads?

Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by Grand Dizzy, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. Grand Dizzy

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    I've just been in Comet and the sales guy there showed me a really mindblowingly brilliant picture on a plasma, and he said it was all thanks to a Monster SCART cable, and they're very hard to get hold of, and don't sell them anywhere else (yeah, I know: typical sales pitch).

    I looked at the packaging and I'm sure it said www.monstertht.com, but now I'm online I can't find the site. So maybe these leads ARE rare!?

    Does anyone know anything about Monster, and do you know a cheaper way to get the same quality? (The Monster cables cost £100!) Isn't component better than SCART, or does it depend on the manufactuer?

    I'm ordering my plasma tonight, so I really need some good advice on cabling!
     
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  3. Grand Dizzy

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    They are overpriced but no more so than any "branded" cable.
     
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    It's a scam ! The TV's have been specially tweaked to make the overpriced cable look better. My mate (who works in broadcast tv) saw this demo, and challenged the assistant to switch the cables over to prove it. He refused. Save your money. By all means use good quality video cables (i.e. don't buy the really cheap ones), but anything more than about £15 for a scart cable is just plain foolish.
     
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    there a con get yourself down to www.tvcables.co.uk and have a look better cables at half the price a jerk of a salesman tryed to sell me a 1m scart lead for £90 almost told him where to shuv it :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    One thing that puts me off monster cables (apart from the way they seem to be sold) is the fact that the cable comes out the scart connector at an angle. With thick unflexible cable it's a problem especially as a lot of devices with scart cables seem to position them right next to the power supply! Something I've never understood....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Also try Unbeatable, their prices seem even cheaper!
     
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    Before you buy a monster cable check how much it should cost.
    The actual prices they should be are on http://www.monstercables.com/UK/
    I had heard that alot of places were overcharging.
    After trying these out I decided that against all other branded cables the Digital audio and video and the analogue video cables seem to be worth their money in comparison.
    The analogue audio cables are a little overpriced but only a little in comparison!
     
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    You think £129.95 for a 1m scart is "a little overpriced" ? I would say that it is £100 overpriced. Anyhow, look at the website, look up the places in the UK that sell these cables. Which perveyors of fine audio equipment come up in the list ? Currys and Comet

    'Nuff said :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    and the fact they sell them makes them crap does it?
    http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/sto...9&category_oid=-20090&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null
    http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/sto...7&category_oid=-21030&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null
    They also sell products by Denon, sony, toshiba...
    The fact they sell them in these shops doesn't make them crap, the fact that you don't like them doesn't make them crap.
    But I would love to know if your claim about the cables from this particular brand being £100 overpriced came from you blind testing them against many other cables to see the difference, or whether it's your belief that you are right without actually testing against your theory!
     
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    Well, first of all, I'm not sure what your links were supposed to prove, because they don't work - "Sorry, but your connection to our
    site has been terminated"


    The fact that they are only sold in Dixons or Currys (to me) indicates that no other reputable specialist dealers in the country stock them. They sell a lot of other brands, but not Monster.

    As far as blind testing goes - I'm not going to throw £125 into a pot to do blind tests. I might be old, but I'm not stupid. If the cables were that good, the salespeople wouldn't have to set up bogus demonstrations or badger people to buy them, they would sell themselves on reputation alone. If I had an extra £125 to spend on my system, it would go where it would be noticed, not on overpriced cables that show at least a 60% profit margin for the seller :laugh: Whenever a website offers "Reseller deals", you know there's a big profit markup if two sellers can make a profit from the sale.
     
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    Seems to me the Americans speak highly of them....
     
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    Anyone can post testimonials on their own website, and nobody can prove that they are not real. I would be more impressed to see testimonials on an independent web site. They only give the names on the reviews, and I expect there are plenty of "Andy Smith"'s in Chicago :suicide:
     
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    I am not sure why you object to Monster Cables merely because they are sold by certain retailers. So, if Comet were to start selling Quad or Naim equipment, that would mean they are rubbish?

    A quick search and I found these comments

    "I really liked the overall construction of the Monster Navajo Cable. It had nicely crafted insulation that was off white in color making it blend somewhat more easily when installed near a similarly colored wall or ceiling. The Cobalt Cables build quality was quite impressive. The jacket covering the conductors was esthetically pleasing and the banana plug terminations fit very snug against the binding posts of my amplifiers and loudspeakers."
    http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/SpeakerCableFaceoff.htm
     
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    One very well respected American manufacturer featured photos of an installation from a customer that was actually one of their dealers. Another lesser known American company featured a glowing testimonial / review from a customer that they also omitted to mention was one of their dealers and the UK distributor of a third American company actually awarded themselves a non existent award earlier this year so it does go on
     
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    Hey, I don't object to anything. It's not my cash you're spending. You can twist my words any way you like, but one thing I am sure of - if I wanted some sound audio or video advice, two places I would avoid like the plague would be Comet and Currys. I would have thought that if these cables were so stupendous, then they would be found in a few independent AV dealers ? But they aren't are they ? :thumbsdow
     
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    Having started a similar post having a go at comets dodgy selling tactics I feel the point has been lost about the cables...

    I have on my panasonic plasma a set of their THX component leads and they DID make a noticeable difference on the picture quality so they where WORTH the money... All I can say is try before you buy.. My local hifi dealer is more than happy to lend cables to try.

    If anyones interested ... they stock all brands etc but they also stock monster cables (cheaper than comet!) so give em a call

    www.acton-gate.com
     
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    Let's face it what cable isn't grossly overpriced?
     
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    Belkin cables are made to a fairly high spec, have a lifetime guarantee, and don't break the bank. A lot of the expensive cables are made in the same Chinese sweat-shops that the cheaper cables are made in.
     
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    Yes I agree, but even then, take a look at the components used and the manufacturing costs you'll still find a very tidy profit margin.....
     
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    Which one is the biggest geek - Mike, Andy or Chris ? :)
     
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    I have not twisted your words to suit my argument, I summarised your position.
     
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    99p skytronic SCART cables from ASDA are not overpriced
    very good value for money.
     
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    There's always one....:suicide:
    Can't argue with that one PJ!
     
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    The links given were similar items to which you own yourself that can also be brought from Comet and Currys.
    If some people who obviously want to weight the chances in favour of the more expensive item decide to give a false view of the quality then that is down to them, the company who sell them cables cannot be blamed.
    The reason most independants don't buy monster cables is probably because they never tried them. I don't know anything about Belkin cables and I've never tried Asda's scart but I've tried alot of cables and monster aren't far off the mark compared to them!
    My major problem with this whole discussion is that there is a pattern of the people who say how crap their cables are have no actual experience of the cable that they are commenting on!
     
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    almost all of the branded cables use copper inner cables made in the far east QED i know terminate some of their scart range in the UK (i have seen the people making them) and its that last little bit of soldering that can make all the difference..............
     
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    I don't think anyone has said that expensive cables are crap, but many have suggested that they don't give any extra performance over cheaper cables. Several people have also commented on the antics of the sales people in a certain major chain store, who deliberately mislead the public into thinking that expensive video interconnects vastly improve the picture.

    There was also a post recently pointing to a test on power cables, where an audience (which included several audiophiles) were no better at picking out the expensive cables than they would have been if they had tossed a coin to make the decision.

    These days I buy cables which are from a named manufacturer (like Belkin), but which do not cost more than about £10-15. If I wasn't satisfied with the quality, I would think about getting a "better" cable. However, I've always been satisfied with the quality, and as an engineer that has worked in AV for more than 20 years (with several years working on broadcast AV stuff) I am not easily pleased, because I have been trained to look for faults, and it's a hard habit to get out of.
     

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