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    as header does anyone have one if so what is the picture like and has anyone tried the progressive scan yet with a projector, also does it play rce discs ok for the multi region version.


    Thanks for the help I need a good progressive player to go with my panasonic projector.
     
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    I guess no one has got this player yet.
    Did you check out the review in last month's HCC?
    It did well apart from cd playback.
     
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    yep I think I wil go for this player in multiregion as most of my films are ntsc.
     
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    What's the best price, and where have you seen it for the 510?
    I am tempted to go for the new Toshiba 220, I know it's interlaced but I am getting fed up with s-video, it suck's! I am getting tired of waiting for a low cast pal progressive player in the UK.
    There is the NIntaus though, but that one is a bit risky.
    :confused:
     
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    I have found the 510 multi region (rce?) for £299 here
     
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    just order one from them they say it plays rce discs ok

    let you know what it is like when I get it
     
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    Cheer's, it's a pretty good price for ntsc progressive and dvd-audio.
    Will you be trying out any dvd-audio title's?
    I look forward to your review.
     
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    dont have any dvd audio discs at the moment but may get one to try.


    Looks as though it will be Tuesday before I get it due to holiday weekend:(
     
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    There's a gut over at dvdfoums got one, not much to say though yet.
     
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    yeah seen that he said his m8 got one from av land so I have asked hime if he got it & what it is like
     
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    Chic, The sd-510 is called the sd-5700 in the state's, here's a short review.

    Toshiba SD5700 Pushes Price:performance Barrier

    By HT Staff

    Good consumer electronics keep getting better and cheaper.
    Toshiba is pushing the price:performance barrier with a versatile new DVD player at an amazingly low price. Introduced at the CEDIA 2001, the SD5700 astounded show attendees with its versatility and excellent picture. The DVD player combines DVD-Video and DVD-Audio capabilities with the capacity for playing back normal CDs and home-brew CD-Rs. The suggested price is just below $400.

    The silver-face SD5700 includes all Toshiba's standard features, and improves on its predecessor's video performance with the inclusion of a 10-bit, 54-mHz video D/A converter with "super anti-alias filter." Image quality is enhanced by proprietary "Super ColorStream Pro®" circuitry and progressive component video output with "Cinema Mode" processing. Every aspect of the picture is user-adjustable via Toshiba's custom picture settings feature. Multiple camera angles are available for DVDs so encoded. The SD5700 boasts a horizontal resolution of 540 lines. S-video and component video outputs are standard.

    The unit's audio performance is also top-notch, thanks to 24-bit/192kHz PCM decoding. The SD5700 is compatible with MP3, normal audio CDs, and compilation discs made on CD-R or CD-RW. It also works very well with DVD-Audio recordings and includes HDCD® precision filtering and decoding. Surround sound is via 5.1-channel Dolby Digital or DTS, with the 5.1 analog output available directly on the 5700's rear panel. An optional optical digital audio output allows the use of external DACs and signal processors, as does the coaxial digital output. Two Toshiba audio features---"Dialogue Enhancement" and "Spatializer® N-2-2™ Virtual Surround Sound"---add to the 5700's array of options. A dynamic range control enables late-night listening without arousing the ire of family or neighbors.

    The SD5700 can be operated either via its front panel or remotely, using onscreen commands. Custom video features include "strobing," "four-power picture zoom," and x2, x8, x30, x100 forward and reverse scan.
     
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    specs for the sd-5700


    SD5700

    DVD

    msrp: $399.99
    >>Back to Features


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    Technology and Benefits:
    VIDEO

    Super ColorStream Pro® Component Video Outputs
    Because the digital filter enables eight times oversampling of the component video signal, Super ColorStream Pro players deliver the highest quality video signal to be sent from the
    DVD player to a component video equipped analog or digital TV. When this connection is utilized, typical NTSC artifacts - like video noise, dot crawl, and flicker - are virtually eliminated, resulting in a low-noise, highly detailed picture with unequaled color purity.

    Digital Cinema Progressive (3:2 Pulldown)
    Delivers the smoothest, most film-like images to any progressive scan television, such as an HD-compatible one, and ensures maximum resolution.

    Video Black Level Expansion and PLUGE
    Grayscale in video is measured and tracked on a scale of 0 (black) to 100 (white) IRE units. In NTSC video we have traditionally assigned the 7.5 IRE value as being the black cutoff in
    a picture. The EXPANDED mode in the "Video Black Level Setting" menu enables Toshiba DVD players to output a 0 IRE signal for richer, deeper black tones in every image.

    Parallel Video Output
    This highly convenient feature lets you connect your Toshiba DVD player via Composite, S-Video, and/or Interlaced Component Video Outputs and watch simultaneous images
    from each connected TV. Ideal for multi-room applications.


    AUDIO

    DVD-Audio Compatibility
    Enjoy playback of DVD-Audio titles encoded with higher resolution audio than standard CDs and expanded multi-channel effects. This 'total immersion' experience can include text (song lyrics), still pictures (slide show), and moving visuals (music video).

    TosLink® for Optical Connectivity
    Sends the audio signal to an audio/video receiver in its digital form allowing access to the Dolby Digital® /DTS® track encoded on the DVD disc.

    MP3 Audio Compatibility
    Expands the players' functionality to include playback of custom music collections encoded via MP3 digital audio format onto CD-R or CD-RW media.

    Dialogue Expansion (E.A.M.)
    Offers three audio-enhancing modes: NORMAL; 3-D provides virtual surround sound from two-speaker playback systems via Spatializer® N-2-2™; and DIALOGUE enhances center channel frequencies during playback of Dolby Digital encoded discs via the analog audio outputs.

    HDCD® Decoding and Filtering
    Delivers the extended audio range available from over 5000 HDCD encoded compact discs. Also improves the overall sound of conventional CDs due to better digital filtering which produces warmer, more natural audio reproduction.



    CONVENIENCE

    NAVI Graphical User Interface
    Uses graphical icons (instead of simple text) in a convenient menu display for quick access to key player functions. Includes a Virtual Remote control that can be displayed on-screen, an Angle Viewer for titles encoded with multiple camera angles, Preview for creation of thumbnail chapter views, Strobe for a breakdown of a particular scene, and Capture that allows for custom wallpaper.

    Picture Zoom
    This interactive feature allows you to select an area of the picture you want to zoom in on and magnify it. Enhanced digital processing during moving video or freeze-frame playback produces superior color fidelity and resolution, even when you're zoomed in. Also can be used to expand letterbox-only films to increase the viewable area on-screen.

    Remote Confirmation Lets users know that a remote operation command has been received by the player with an audible 'beep' sound.



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    Detailed Specifications:
    1 Disc Quantity
    DVD/VCD/CD-r/CD/DVD-R/CD-RW Disc Play
    6-Channel DVD Audio
    10bit/54mHz Video D/A Converter
    Super ColorStream Pro
    Digital Cinema Progressive
    540 Lines Resolution
    Black Level Expansion and PLUGE
    24bit/192kHz Audio D/A Converter
    Dolby Digital/DTS Output
    MP3 Audio
    HDCD Decoding and Filtering

    EAM Dialogue Expansion

    Remote Beep

    Spatializer N-2-2

    Icon-Based OSD

    Picture Zoom

    Bitstream Display

    Front Ops.

    CD/DVD Text Compatible

    NAVI Menu

    Joystick Remote

    Terminals:
    1 set Y/Pr/Pb out

    1 S-Video

    1 RCA-Video

    1 Optical Out

    1 Coaxial Out

    1 pair L-R Audio

    6-Channel Out

    x2/x8/x30/x100 Scan

    1/8, 1/4, 1/2, Slo-Motion

    Parental Lock

    Multi-Camera Angle Select

    Multi-Language Select

    Multi-Subtitle Select
    90 Days Labor/1 Year Parts Warranty

    UPC Code: 022265410394
    Unit Dimensions (HxWxD):
    3-3/16" x 17" x 12-1/4"
    Unit Weight: 6 lbs 7 oz
    Carton Dimensions (HxWxD):
    6-7/16" x 20-7/16" x 16-15/16"
     
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    tim thanks for looking that up


    seems like a top player hopefuly it lives up to that review

    will let you know how the ntsc progressive and interlaced pal is with the panny when I get it.


    are you thinking about getting one tim?
     
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    Chick, we met again :D It's a small world.
     
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    Maybe, it is now on my short list.
     
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    my toshiba 510 arrived today will test it tonight with the panasonic & let you know what the ntsc progressive is like
     
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    :eek: that was quick, I wonder if it will do pal progressive from the box, like the Lecson did. I bet it wont.
    I have just ordered two dvd's, region 1, I normally order region 2, what's that saying to you?
    They were cheap though.
    Harry Potter, 2 disc £12.99
    JP III £10.99
    I look forward to your comments.
     
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    set up the tosh with the panasonic and first the bad news

    no pal progressive :(

    interlaced through the components was still excellent


    ntsc progressive was superb:D no bleeding or flaring around credits like the lescon options to choose film or video mode for progressive.

    Tried star trek inserection first and all the artifacts round the buildings are gone no more pumping canoes etc still slightle juddery on the pan shot but I think this is due to this disc.

    Tried seven region 1 the surrender chapter 27 good to test out the progressive mode due to all the straight lines in the brick work, tried in interlaced the artifacts and jaggies were there, switched on progressive and they were gone:D

    Off to watch the fith element superbit now

    In short I am well happy with this player which cost £309 including delivery is auto multi region & plays rce discs ok.:D :D
     
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    Thats good news, this film is supposed to be a killer for prog scan players.
    What do you think of cd playback.
    In the review by HCC it states the firmware can be upgraded by cdr, lets hope it can be upgraded to pal prog by Toshiba if pal prog ever gets the go ahead.
    I am seriously contemplating getting this player.
     
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    cd playback sounded fine to me.

    Richer sounds have it multiregion for £350 £40 more expensive than I paid but you get a 14 days trial so if you get it & dont like it return it, but I bet you wont I am very happy witth the player it is much better than the lescon & most of my films are r1 anyway so I am keeping it.
     
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    One last question, what cables do you get?
    It's dvd-audio so it should come with the 5.1 cables for hooking up to the 5.1 input on your Amp.
    DVD-audio will work from the optical out but it is compressed (thats what I have read anyway) uncompressed when using 5.1 cables.
    I may hang back for a few weeks, and see what else is coming out, or then again I may not wait :confused:
    If and when I go for it I will order from av4u, as you did.

    Thanks for your comments.
     
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    hi tim only cables I got with it was the standard composite phono cables and no scart lead although I dont use the scart.


    I am very happy with the player although the only problem I have is the top case of the dvd player was slightly damged in transit I think the player works fine but I have emailed them and asked them for a discount due to the cosmetic damage or a replacement.

    The picture quality is much much better than the lescon and I the layer changes are ok as well less than a second on some discs and not noticeable on others.

    Have not got any dvda disc yet to try.
     
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    chic,

    the tosh 9000e could convert pal to ntsc pro out can the 510 do the same??

    and also any idea how this player stands against a htpc output?

    Regards
    J

    ps any chance of a demo I live in paisley ;-) !
     
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    I dont think so you only can select pal or auto in the menu no option to select ntsc:(


    I have not seen an htpc running with my panasonic however at the moment I am using a temp 4/3 screen & the projector is sitting on a table and the picture is stunning it will be better when it is properly set up.

    no problem if you can wait a week or two I will be moving house in the next few weeks and I want to get the projector ceiling mounted and by 103" diagonal 16/9 screen up first. I am in Uddingston about 30 minutes from Paisley
     
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    Thanks, I am getting very close to ordering the 510, I cannot live with s-video from my Sony, it sucks.
    My Brother has borrowed me his Paciffic dvd player which has componant out, I will watch AI tonight from componant interlaced to see if I can live with pal interlaced. Only 10% of my dvd's are region1 so I will have to dump buying region2, the only over problem is I rent one pal disc a week, I would have to put up with interlaced with this.
    I could blow £600 and go for the Denon 2800 which will do pal progressive when hacked, but 1, it's expensive 2, there seams to be a lot of people having problems with the Denon.
    Just thought of another question, have you had lipsinc problems with progressive playback?

    Cheers
     
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    not noticed any yet but only had it on for a few hours last night will play around with it a bit more.

    The good thing with this player iy has the option to choose which progressive mode you want, I leave it on auto but you can manualy select film or video from the menu if you want.
     
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    Whats the differance between fim and video?
    Have tested an RCE disc yet?

    Thanks again.
     
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    tried charllies angel r1 & it worked ok


    as far as I know for film mode if the dve is encoded in such away the player will show 24 fps just like film, for video it shows 30fps & it insert extra frames.

    The player detects how the dvd is set up & selects the proper progressive mode.


    Ithink thats how it works it just looks so good thats all I care about.
     
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    My Mrs has told me to stop messing about and order one.
    I will have to check my funds before I make a dicision.

    cheers
     
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    Thanks for the offer - I will take you up on that, one last question, can you tell the difference between r1 prog+ r2 interlaced dvd's. Is there much difference difference in quality??

    Regards
    J
     

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