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  1. Desmo

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    I don't even know who these people are or how they're getting my code....I've not given it out anywhere yet

    Being a printer, maybe I should get some business cards printed up with my code on
     
  2. IronGiant

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    My lips are sealed...

    Nah, I have no idea either :laugh:
     
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    Do these Teslas increase their range with decreased speed? I am noticing more and more worried looking drivers on the northern stretch of our return from France in the slow lane, going slowly. Our X5 unbelievably has got better with age, it can now do the 570 miles journey on one tank at 85mph cruising speed.

    Any projections as to when a Tesla X might do that?
     
  4. its_all_Greek

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    Think of it this way, how much does it cost to fill your X5 with enough fuel to do 570miles? and then how much does it cost to do 570miles in a Tesla?

    Also in your X5 did you top at all during those 570miles of driving or was it continuous? and if it was how often does that happen a year?
     
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    Got to be at least £100 to fill one of those up !!!
     
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    Good points.

    Cost per tank, 85 litres x diesel price?

    I ride motorbikes, so only drive it to France 5/6 times year. We rarely fill up outside of France trips because of its range.

    Time on holiday is more important than money to us, so we stop once/twice for food pickup/comfort break 15 min. max.

    What is the price of a Tesla X compared to the £58K we paid for the fully loaded X5 4.0d Msport 7 seat. I am guessing thr difference might pay for a lot of fuel, no?
     
  7. Desmo

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    Yes...just like every other car :)
     
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    “I’ve given up asking rhetorical questions. What’s the point?”, Alexei Sayle
     
  9. Desmo

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    Errrr, OK.
     
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    It's like going into a very expensive restaurant that is pretentious enough to not put the prices on the menu, if you need to ask then you can't afford it. well if you need to ask whats the point of having a Tesla, then you don't need one although just 0-60 times for the fully loaded model should sell it to you.

    And in reply to your question i ask another
    Whats the point when a 28K Grand picasso gives you as many seats and more economy per mile as well as leaving 30K in your back pocket for a rainy day. ;)
     
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    No idea where the Citroen dealer is near us, we have 2 BMW dealers close by, Tesla again no idea.

    My question was a genuine enquiry, when do you project a Tesla X/ Dyson ? to be able to do 570 miles range.
     
  12. Desmo

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    Very hard to say but I’d be guessing another 2-3 years I reckon.

    The 100kw batteries are getting around 350 real world miles at the moment.
     
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    Thankyou Desmo
     
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    Might be a bit longer than that if there isn't an improvement in technology, there's a limit to how many AA batteries you can cram into one floor pan. (and yes I know they aren't AA batteries)
     
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    A long while yet, at 70mph the X uses electricity at about 3 miles per kWh, at 85mph it'll be 2.5 miles per kWh in ideal conditions.

    So to do 570 miles non stop at using 2.5 miles per kWh your looking at a 228kWh usable, add in 10% of safety buffer/anti bricking your need a battery pack at 250kWh!! Thats 150kWh more than the largest battery pack today.

    That kind of energy density isn't possible with current lithium-ion tech, future (10-20 years+) battery solution will be able to do it, but not today. Equally charging a 250kWh even using a Tesla supercharger will take 2-3hrs+

    I can see 300 miles of range at 85mph with a 120-150kWh over the next few years, but your still looking at £100K+ for that kind of range.

    The more important questions is have you actually driven 570 miles none stop? and if you do I suspect most other people don't/cannot. But even a couple 30 minute stop at supercharge couple with a 100-120kWh+ battery will do that kind of trip without adding much additional time.

    Currently a 2-3hr drive is the absolute limit for our daughter, so any transcontinental drive is a pipe dream, but as she gets older I hope that will change. Come 2025 and 150kWh packs are cheaper I fully intended the 75kWh battery in our car or just get a new with a larger battery.
     
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    We used to set off at 9pm and keep driving through the night. My wife and I would swap every two hours and kept the engine running not to wake them. For our trip to the south in Europe that worked really well.

    But realistically that was only necessary when they were young. Now they want to stretch their legs and a stop is no big deal.
     
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    Yeah, I may have been a tad optimistic. I was just thinking how fast we’d moved on already.

    Just as an interesting side point, around 7,000 of the battery on the left are packed in I a Tesla...

    IMG_0145.jpg

     
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    It's probably why Tesla have never considered offering a compact vehicle, there's just no where to squeeze the batteries in.
     
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    Good tip, got a trip from Leicester to Edinburgh soon, its 300mile and 5hrs of driving. Not at all worried about range, as there is a 8 bay Supercharger site in Newcastle on the way up 3hr into the trip, and coming back plenty of options around Leeds/Sheffield.

    Supercharging the car is actually quite loud, and since my daughter slept straight through the flight from NewYork recently that might work!! Equally though she did scream for 2hrs non stop on a flight to Portugal.....and who knows that she'll do strapped in a car seat!!

    So for us (at the moment), its more baby anxiety limiting travels rather than anything to do with range!!
     
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    Heading to Edinburgh, it’s a nicer drive to hang a left at Scotch Corner and head over to Carlisle and then up. You’ve got superchargers at Gretna Green and Abington as well.
     
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    Is this because of battery cooling? or is the post noisy?
     
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    It’s the speed those electrons move :p
     
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    I’ve only done it the once but the cars cooling system kicks in big time.
     
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    I just noticed a White Tesla X drive by in Warsaw. I must admit and eat a piece of humble pie. It actually looked fantastic.

    I’m thinking it is one of those other cars like my Mercedes GLS was that come across very very different depending on the colour.

    Hmmm how to convince my wife.
     
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    you kept that quiet, do you own one now or was that on the test drive?
     
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    On the test drive. Nearest supercharger is 20 minutes from me so I popped there to give it a whirl. Plugged it in and then popped in the services for 15-20 minutes and it had pumped 105 miles back in the car :)
     
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    In white I think the X hids its size well, to me it certainly looks no worse than a Q7/GLS.

    As for convincing the wife, it was my wife who pushed me to change our order from a S to a X when we had a chance to see one of the first Xs in the UK almost exactly one year ago!! She loved it straight away.

    [​IMG]

    The S is a great car but the X is something else....saw this on another post some where.

    #Impreza STI: I can do 0-60 in 5seconds
    #Ford Galaxy: I can carry 7 people
    #Mercedes SL: opens gullwing doors, says nothing
    #Model X: pwned

    This a review by a couple that current own a S but with a recent new born. We get our replacement 6 seater white X back this weekend, cannot wait :thumbsup:

    Do We Swap Our Model S For A New Model X ???
     
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    Yesterday I got back home after a holiday in Scotland, we covered 1200 miles in 10 days. Charging is a non issue in our 75D Model S. The cars range far surpasses our bladders / desire to stretch our legs.

    On the way home it was 300 miles from Kirkcaldy back to Worksop, we did a quick stop in Abington to use the rest room and grab a drink, then a longer stop of about 40mins to get some lunch at Gretna Green. That was enough to get us home with 18% charge left. We did similar on the way up, stopping at Washington and Edinburgh airport and met up with several other Tesla owners in Dundee for a Tesla road trip to Glenfiddich :)

    Driving around Scotland was great, fantastic car to drive on windy A roads, although a little scary on some of the narrower ones! Charging in Scotland is a piece of cake as they have free to use chargers all over the place!

    Currently done about 1750 miles in my Tesla and I will never buy another ICE car, EV all the way!

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    Is that a 5 series?
     
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