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Anyone else get this on the sky menu on a plasma, slight line streaks, pics attached.

brad123

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Anyone else get this on the sky menu on a plasma, slight line streaks, pic attached. Got a new TV today running a 6m hdmi lead from the sky HD box.

Its the ones going out left from the channel titles boxes left hand side.

Also when I view the TV close theres lots of green dots, especially around blacks, its a brand new LG 50PN650T.

Any ideas. I cant see the dots when stood a few feet away.
 

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chrisgal

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Have you tried it with a different HDMI cable to make sure that's not the issue?
 

Trollslayer

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The HDMI cable cannot cause this, those effects sued to be seen on analogue cables such as Scart and component.
 

Siochain

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First Picture is line bleed. Second picture is dithering noise. Both are normal PDP traits. With the latter lowering brightness may somewhat aleviate it's visibilty. But if you can't notice from your viewing distance don't worry about it.
 

brad123

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Thanks, how do I alter line bleed? Would a more expensive hdmi cable sort it, whats causing both issues?
 

xit2050

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You cannot alter it, another hdmi cable will not sort it.
 

brad123

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Also noticed when I go into the sky menu and change channel before it switches to the new channel the screen goes black then goes onto the new channel.
 

ArmitageShanks

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Yep, line bleed and dithering. All standard plasma traits. When you say "the screen goes black"...isn't that normal between channel changes?

If the panel is actually switching off and back on again, that's normally a trick that some plasma manufacturers do when there is a perfect black signal being shown to artificially lower the black level...which ends up actually being annoying and actually highlights the non-perfect blacks (my Samsung does this).
 

owen021173

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That bleed from the sky menu is normal.I ve had my VT30 for nearly 2 years and its always been there,also shows up when when the credits from a program or film are on and you press the menu button :)

Linebleed in general viewing is something i rarely see so dont let it bother you. I hadnt noticed it for 6 months until ******** came to calibrate my tv and pointed it out straight away.
Dithering on the other hand can be a pain but does depend a lot on how close i sit to the set.

actually looking at the 2nd pick again my dither doesnt seem as bad as that pic,my tv is a panasonic btw so as someone above has suggested maybe your brightness is too high?
 

PA77ULY

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Yeah thats line bleed i had it with the GT60 but the f8500 doesn't have any whats so ever
That's something that has always bugged me a little.

My GT60 is the same and I've seen the same on all the Panasonic models over the past couple of years. I accept it as I understand it's inherent to plasma yet I've also owned various Samsung plasmas and line bleed was practically non existent.

The same goes for IR. Again inherent and in fairness it disappears quickly enough on my GT but yet again on my old Sammys, they were practically bullet proof to this.

For these reasons, whilst the GT produces a superb picture, I can't see how it can be awarded Reference status.
 

fluxo

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The line bleed is pretty terrible at times on the VT65 here (was hardly visible at all on an earlier GT50). Are there any VT/GT/ST owners whose sets do not show this trait in an obvious way?
 

PA77ULY

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I've owned all the 60 T Series plasmas this year bar the ZT mate and the line bleed was the same on all.

It does bug me when I see it but I'll take it over DSE any day and the screen uniformity and black levels thankfully make up for it.
 

fluxo

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I've owned all the 60 T Series plasmas this year bar the ZT mate and the line bleed was the same on all.

It does bug me when I see it but I'll take it over DSE any day and the screen uniformity and black levels thankfully make up for it.
Line bleed is the only thing noticeably wrong with the VT65 here. I've been agonizing over it for weeks now. Unless you've seen a few examples of these sets, and it sounds as though you have, it's difficult to know what is normal.
 

PA77ULY

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Line bleed is the only thing noticeably wrong with the VT65 here. I've been agonizing over it for weeks now. Unless you've seen a few examples of these sets, and it sounds as though you have, it's difficult to know what is normal.
I've certainly seen my fair share! I do think it's normal, at least from a Panasonic perspective, but I'd love to know why Samsung do a much better job of masking it. Like you it's the only noticeable thing wrong with my GT. Other than that the PQ is just sublime.
 

markfawcett

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Older Panasonics used to have zero line bleed. At one time LG plasmas were the only brand that exhibited this trait. I don't know what they changed to make it become so apparent.
 

Scooby2000

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Older Panasonics used to have zero line bleed. At one time LG plasmas were the only brand that exhibited this trait. I don't know what they changed to make it become so apparent.
Zero? Not quite in my experience.
My PX80, V20 and GT had it, it was very rare but there all the same.

Seen it on my Samsung D6900 too, I think its one of those traits that varies from set to set.
 

Scooby2000

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Not seeing any on my st60, if it is there, I'm not going to be looking hard enough to find it.
Yeah been down that road:facepalm:, if you look hard enough on any set you'll find things you don't like. Best to just enjoy it.
 

d3nver

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We have had terrible line blled on every Lg plasma we had, Sammy 6500 and e8000 also has this and no cable will change it, doesn't bother us as its only on extreme things like a pc window will have ghosting to left and right, don't really notice it anymore but its been seen on every single plasma we have had.

You don't watch menu's so ignore ity if you can, if you see it when using pc you also don't watch a window so again ignore it as you wont see it in game or in a film, I never have.
 
got line bleed on my GT60, see it during snooker too, the big green empty space really shows it up when the refs white gloves come into view.
 

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