Anybody got a good picture with Sony W2000?

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  1. DJ GA

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    I have got the Sony 40W2000 and on Sky SD the picture is not what I expected.

    Have tried various settings but not impressed, anybody got any ideas or is this the case with this TV, Maybe you need HD?

    Thanks :lease:
     
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    Its not a surprise for me.The 1080p makes SD worse.Have you tried any of the settings located on the settings thread?
     
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    Hi Chisgeo, I have tried 2 of members settings but it looks grainy, I will buy a new scart this week and see if that helps, but I prefer my 32 CRT to this picture, good eh?
     
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    what's your viewing distance?, any closer than 8 feet and most things will look poor.
     
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    DJ GA,

    Can you post the settings you're currently using so we can advise as to what changes to make?

    Actually, having owned a 1280x768 Sony KLV-26HG2 (Samsung PVA panel), a 1366x768 Sony KDL-32V2000 (Samsung SPVA panel), and finally a Sony KDL-40W2000 which I have now (a 1920x1080 Samsung SPVA panel), I've concluded that the extra scaling needed to get SD up to 1080p resolution doesn't have a noticeably detrimental effect.

    May be off topic, but if you'd like to see some pictures of my own KDL-40W2000 in action: http://www.lyris-lite.net/avcrap.html
     
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    Hi thanks for your reply, Yes I sit about 7 to 8 feet away and true it is better the further you go back, but I would have thought 5 to 6 feet the picture should be good, surely? Are you saying you have to sit further than 8 feet away for 40"?

    I'm going to have another go with the setting tomorrow and see what I can do.

    Regards
     
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    Hi Lyris, Thanks for your reply

    My settings:
    Picture Mode Custom
    Backlight 3
    Contrast Max
    Brightness 40
    Colour 50
    Colour Temp Neutral
    Sharpness 8
    Noise Reduction Low

    Black Corrector Low
    Advanced Contrast Enhancer Off
    Gamma Low
    Clear White Off
    Live Colour High
    Colour Space Wide
    Mpeg Noise Reduction Off

    Many thanks for your help.

    Gary
     
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    Hi Lyris

    Nice pictures on yours, What is your Sky SD picture like? I am getting a Sony upscaling DVD on Monday so that should look good hopefully?

    Regards

    Gary
     
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    I don't use Sky myself, but I do use Freeview, and it's almost as good as can be expected.

    Regarding your settings, I'd recommend turning Noise Reduction Off entirely. Also:

    Black Corrector Low This just clips the blacks - leave it off
    Advanced Contrast Enhancer Off
    Gamma Low
    Clear White Off
    Live Colour High This pumps the colours up artificially and actually accentuates noise
    Colour Space Wide Try this on Normal
    Mpeg Noise Reduction Off
     
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    Lyris, thanks for your advice, Freeview looked grainy as well but the colours are brighter and def better than Sky SD, maybe the aerial feed? I will try your settings and let you know tomorrow morning if thats ok with you.

    Many thanks, its great to get expert help!

    Bye for now

    Gary
     
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    Lyris

    I tried those settings , improved it slightly but still blurred picture, glad its not my TV, its my mums and she says its fine, but compared to a Sony CRT it isn't. I am a perfectionist!

    I wont be buying one, will wait for the hopefully new improved X3000 or X3500, or maybe Pioneer? Look forward to the reviews guys! :lease:

    Regards
     
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    Glad that helped at least a little - it sounds like you're benefitting a lot from the CRT "look" hiding some of the ugliness of SDTV.

    One last thing. Is the Sky decoder outputting RGB (in the Picture setup menu)?
     
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    Thanks Lyris. I will try that tomorrow, I am not sure whether the Sky decoder is outputting RGB, what difference does that make (not an expert in TV's).

    Thanks once again for all your help, it is much needed and appreciated.

    Regards
     
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    Hi again, just checked my video output on my Sky with Sony CRT and video output is set to PAL, if I put it to RGB the screen goes green, so I dont understand why you would put this setting to RGB with the LCD, can you explain? thanks
     
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    If the screen goes green, there's something wrong with either your TV or SCART cable.

    RGB is very, very similar to Digital Component Video, the format that MPEG-2 (which Sky and DVD use) uses. If you have the decoder set to RGB mode, it can pass this picture to the TV with little adjustment.

    PAL means Composite PAL video - the old 1950s sytem which analogue TV broadcasts and VHS tapes use. If you send the pictures to the TV in this way, they're being downgraded/downconverted for no good reason at all. This might be OK on a CRT but will degrade the picture noticeably on an LCD TV.
     
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    Hi Lyris

    Thanks for your reply again, that is interesting, I will change the scart lead tomorrow and see if the picture goes green again. I think the TV is ok it has a good picture, any ideas what could be the problem with the TV if it is faulty?

    Sorry to be a pain.

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    No problem at all. The Sky box could have a problem with it instead, I suppose - better yet, the SCART cables have a tendency to become loose which could explain the green picture.
     
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    Hi Lyris

    You are a star! :clap: Mums Sky output was set to PAL, now changed to RGB and looks much better.

    My problem was the SCART lead, now set to RGB, looks good as well.

    So just need to make my mind up on which 40" to go for, Pioneer, Sony or Samsung?

    Not an easy decision is it?

    Thanks once again for your help, its great to get free help! :thumbsup:

    Regards

    Gary
     
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    Glad that helped. Not an easy decision at all... but I've heard mostly only good things about those new Pioneer plasmas and since you sound very sensitive to how SD broadcasts on panels look, I think a good Plasma might be best for you.
     
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    Hi Lyris, thanks for your advice, I have seen the new Pioneers, but the 40" is not Full HD, do you know if there is a 40" Full HD coming out?

    The 50" is Full HD, but sitting 9 feet back may be too much?

    Regards

    Gary
     
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    There is a 1080p version coming out, yeah. Do remember that resolution isn't everything, though.
     
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    pioneer 42" 1080p due out october i think

    42" panasonic 1080p (the PZ70 / PZ700) is out already
     

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