Any Vauxhall Ampera owners here?

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  1. Stuart Wright

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    Been looking round at a cheapish used electric car for the Mrs. She doesn't like (the look of) the e-Golf, the Nissan Leaf or the BMW i3.p
    The Ampera gets reasonable reviews, and I have always found Carol Vorderman very trustworthy :)
    Carol Vorderman | Vauxhall Ampera
     
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    Not specifically about the Ampera, but I gather that in general, Vauxhall (GM) and vehicle electrics are not happy bedfellows.......
     
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    Looks nice.

    The car Stuart, the car... :D
     
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    Forget Carol - I refuse to get sidetracked by lovely Carol in that advert :love:

    Vauxhall Ampera-e 2017

    Opel Ampera-e 2017 review Autocar

    Range is about 230 miles or so (claimed).

    UK launch date = 2019 or so.
     
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    The one in that video had a 14 plate, and Stuart is looking second hand...
     
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    I spotted the 14 plates and how good Carol looked.

    Apparently the 'old' Ampera can do as much as 40 miles on electric.

    'Nuff said.
     
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    Ouch, that's a miserable range...
     
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    ...Yep. I've read the range is about 33 miles on average use.
     
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    Is that UK launch date confirmed?

    I keep hearing that there won't be a right hand drive version.
     
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    That is new information (April 2017) and might be right but not confirmed.

    Older news on other car websites state the new model will not be available in the UK.

    Even if it's available in 2019, the price takes it out of my value-for-money range.
     
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    Wasn't this a weird one though? The engine has no mechanical transmission to the wheels I believe? It runs to charge the batteries and drive is always from the electric motor. The electric motor runs from batteries or from the generator attached to the engine. With 16Kw batteries I'm surprised it does 30 miles before the recharging occurs - 2 miles per Kw back then was probably quite good!

    Anyway not a true electric and not really a hybrid in the normal sense of the word. Electric motor drive with built in petrol powered generator to recharge - basically powers the electric motor plus recharges the batteries.

    There is a good reason they have scrapped it and are releasing a proper EV I suspect:)

    We had the Bolt here in Oz and that stopped production in RH drive too. They have a nicer and more practical new version in LH drive in the US of that too - but are not releasing it here (not in RH drive think) either.

    It seems they should sell more units once they release an EV with a range over 200 miles in any country they release it - GM/Vauxhall/Opel/Holden seem to have a strange take on EVs compared to other manufacturers though - particularly in RHD.

    TBF GM in the US tend to call the shots and the other parts of that group merely pass on whatever they have to their region - what each region is asking for rarely seems to factor into GM decisions though...... especially in RHD versions wher they need volume sales they don't get with niche models like this.
     
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    OK, it wasn't made clear in the OP that this isn't an EV at all, it's a Hammerhead Eagle I-Thrust with decent bodywork.
     
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    This is interesting:

    Vauxhall Ampera 2012-2015 design & styling | Autocar

    "There are two other power units under the Ampera’s bonnet besides the main electric motor. One is a 71bhp electric motor/generator, and the other an 85bhp 1.4-litre four-cylinder petrol engine. All three are connected to the Ampera’s front wheels via a planetary gearbox and a system of electronic clutches."

    Strange motor!! o_O
     
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    What could possibly go wrong? :)
     
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    Nothing can go wrong...go wrong...go wrong...go wonrg...go wgonr...

    :D
     
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    Oh well, if it caught fire at least it's only got a small Li-ion* battery. :D


    *other battery technologies are available.
     
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    OK, true - but fire is serious stuff:

    The rate at which lithium-ion batteries charge is carefully limited so that the lithium doesn't move too quickly - which, incidentally, is why batteries take time to charge.

    If it moves too fast, lithium plates begin to form around the anode, creating a short circuit and generating heat. That heat, if it builds up, can ignite the flammable electrolyte, and you've got a battery fire.


    Anyone for a fast charge?
     
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    I was obliquely referring to that SMART Car that just incarcerated itself while charging...
     
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    This might all change with the impending purchase of Vauxhall/Opel by the PSA group.
     
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    True but over here we have Holden which is the Australian arm of GM. I don't think PSA is buying all of GM - only Europe's subsidiaries? Then again whilst Holden isn't being bought the modern intertwining of these car companies may still have an effect here (Holden has ceased production of cars in Australia) as we get some of our models built in Europe.....

    Peugeot parent PSA in talks to buy Opel-Vauxhall

    Ah well I wouldn't be buying an astra anyway :)

    Edit - for EVs we will still be controlled by GM I suspect but hopefully as you say that may change. Australians have a way to go to buy EVs apart from Tesla - we do need range first and foremost. So apart from a few buying a commuting car the sales have been very poor so far.
     
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    Wouldn't change mine for the world. Brilliant car. Currently done 85000 miles and not a problem. Still on original brake pads as they don't require changing until at least 100,000 miles. One of the guys on speakev is still going strong with no discernible battery loss at 300,000 miles. Warranty for battery and drivetrain is 100,000 miles or 8 years.
     

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