Any tips for replacing interior door hinges?

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  1. nheather

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    Decorating a room and the door furniture is looking tired. Definitely replacing the door handles and latch but I also have some new hinges in the set and it would be nice to use them.

    Now as luck would have it they are identical size, but whilst the holes are arranged in a similar pattern it is not an exact match.

    If the hole locations were totally different I would just fill the old holes and drill new ones. But these are close enough that it may be difficult drilling new holes so close.

    I can't beleive that I am the first to enounter this so any tips on how best to proceed?

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    Plug the hole with a dowel or quick drying filler from a mastic tube.

    6 Ways to Plug or Fill Pocket Holes | FixThisBuildThat

    Never knew Doir made doors :p
     
  3. nheather

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    Funny - corrected.

    Filling the holes isn't my concern, it is that the new hole with have to be drilled very close to the filled hole. Will that disturb the filler making an elongated hole or will the drill bit simply meander into the filled hole.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    If filled tight with a dowel it shouldn't wander at all.
    If filled with wood filler then pack good and tight and set your first drill hole with a really small drill bit of around 2mm odd and then a larger drill bit, or tap the screws right in.
     
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    Depends on the size of the hole the screws have left. I'm old school and hammer in matchsticks/cocktail sticks until it's well packed :D

    I quite like the idea of doing it properly with dowels. :thumbsup:
     
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    Sorry should add to drop a dot of wood glue on the dowel before ramming in.
     
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    The holes are only matchstick size at most so I'd be a little hesitent to drill it out for a 5mm dowel.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    Matchsticks work or I have used wooden kebab skewers in the past.... If it works, don't change it!
     
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    If you look in the recent purchases thread, I'm about to embark on a door changing project so watch this space...
     
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    A good idea is to make sure you use a sharp, preferably new, drill bit. That will help to guard against the bit wandering down the path of least resistance - the old packed hole.
     
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    Always used matchsticks myself, my dad taught me that trick. Dowel would be the best if you want to do a proper job but most people don't have dowel lying around.
     
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    IME it can be difficult to drill accurately into filled wood where there may be different degrees of hardness. There's the original door casing, which may soft or hard, depending on its age, the dowel, which can have a different hardness, other fillings, such as matchsticks, and any adhesive you may put in - some of which dry like tough plastic. Given that you'd be drilling 6, or preferably 9 holes into the frame it'd be hard to get consistent results.

    Need to consider the weight of the new door too. I recently fitted some new doors and they weighed around 30kg - quite a handful, and defiantly o_O needed a pair and a half of good quality hinges per door.

    So my tip would be to forget the existing holes in the door frame - just fit the new hinges a good 3-4 inches above or below the old positions, and fill the redundant screw holes/rebates as necessary.

    Talking of rebates, my way is to cut a rebate in both the frame and the door, each being the thickness of one leaf of the hinge, like this -

    Double rebates.JPG

    Whereas, confession time:blush:, I paid a joiner to fit the other three, I just struggled so much with handling the weight, and he cut a single rebate, in the door, and screwed the hinges flush to the frame, like this -
    One rebate.JPG

    I don't know which is "correct", but there you go :).

    Edit - I'm behind on my dusting and painting, sorry :(.
     

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    It’s simple enough to fill the old holes, I just chisel a bit of timber to shape and knock it in. Don’t chisel out the hinges in a different position, it will look terrible.
    The poster above, a Joiner should not have done that to your doors.
    If you are ever hanging a few doors or heavy doors a very helpful little tool is a winbag
    (I have hung probably a few thousand doors over the years)
    John...
     
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    All door hinges should be rebated on both door and frame, this gives you the perfect gap when the door is shut. Cutting the rebates is a whole lot easier if you have a good quality, sharp chisel. It will go through the wood like butter.
     
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    Thanks for the info on the winbag. Will have to get one of those.
     
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    I find using a router to cut the hinge holes on the door simple and quick.

    If you only set one hinge in, the gap on that side must be huge.

    love the windbag idea will stick it on the xmas list:laugh:
     
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    They are great, especially on veneered doors.

    John.
     
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    I've just spent more than the cost of a door on a router and hinge cutting templates :D:D:D

    Now I need a winbag?
     
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    Plenty of windbags on here :devil: i.e. General Chat
     
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    Don’t forget you will still need a hammer and chisel, unless your hinges have rounded corners :). Or get one of these to add to the list Trend C/CHISEL Corner chisel HSS | C CHISEL

    John..
     
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    I've already got a chisel, but was wondering about that gadget, thanks.
     
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    Chisel on door frames. router on doors (if you have the correct bits and bobs) works wonders.

    I wouldn't be too worried about the existing screw holes. If anything, I'd be more worried about them matching up. Nice, fresh holes is the way to go (ooer!)

    If you can't find the right sized hinge go for a larger one IMO.

    Wood glue and matchsticks FTW :)
     
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    Was reminded of this thread a couple of days ago at work when looking at the amount of work that must have gone into fixing this and how the finished result is hardly noticeable.

    20171201_063008.jpg 20171201_063012.jpg
     
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    WTF. How is that even possible?
     
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    My guess is it spun so fast it flowed around the wall.
     

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