Any Landscape lens recommendations ?

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  1. HMHB

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    I'm wanting to get back into landscape photography which I was really into many years ago with my olf Canon T90 and 24mm FD lens ..... back in the Good Old Days ;) :D
    I only have the kit lens which came with my 350D and my trusty Sigma 70-300 APO and am thinking that the kit lens just won't do the job after reading a lot of posts. What lens(es) would you recommend ? Are the 10-22mm wide zooms better quality than the kit lens or should I be looking elsewhere ?
    Cheers
     
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    In my experience, yes they are. Far better.

    I'd also take a look at the Tokina 12-24 as well as the offerings from Canon and Sigma.

    Whilst I am still getting to grips with my Tokina, there are a few others members who have it and I'm sure they will be able to show you what it can do!
     
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    I have Canon EF-S 10-22 f3.5-4.5 USM, wonderful for landscapes and architectural shots. This lens will blow the kit lens out of the water, it's very sharp and very quick compared to the kit lens.

    If the Canon is out of your budget margin then you may want to look towards the Tamron Lens AF SP 11-18mm F/4.5-5.6 Di-II LD which has had some very good reviews.

    The price differnece between the two lenses is about £200 (the Canon 10-22 is about £500 and the Tamron 11-18 is £300)

    Don't let the price put you off, the Tamron is very good for the money.

    Also don't forget the Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 EX DC HSM..

    Best bet is to go to a camera shop and test out all 3 lenses, you can then make up your own mind.
     
  4. stevegreen

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    The kit lens is at its best at around the f/8 mark so combine this with an 18mm wide end and the kit would seem perfect for landscapes, however, the more expensive glass such as the Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 and the Tokina/Tamron offerings at similar focal lengths will all out perform the kit quality wise AFAIK.

    Personally, I fint the 10mm end of my Sigma a little too wide for landscapes and prefer to shoot at around the 20mm mark, saving the 10mm end for strange angled stuff and abstracts.
     
  5. HMHB

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    I suppose I owe it to the kit lens to give it a go and see what the results are like to be honest :thumbsup:
     
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    I think you do

    The ultra wide angle do have their uses though as they tend not have barrel distortion at the wide end until you go very wide ( not good for landscapes as you get a bit more foreground than you might wish

    I use the Tokina 12-24 ( very nice) but tend to use it more between 17-24

    I could post comparison images of a "landscape" ( a park more like) at 17mm in From my neck of thw woods if you like
     
  7. HMHB

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    Yes that would be good cheers.
     
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    Another vote for the Tokina 12-24mm. I toyed with the Sigma 10-20, but in the end thought that the 24mm would get more use than 10mm if I was using it as a walkaround landscape lens. You also get constant f4.

    According to Ken Rockwell though, the Canon 10-22 blows all the ultrawide zooms out of the water, so if you can afford it, that would probably be the way to go.
     
  9. HMHB

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    This may be a dumb question !
    Who is Ken Rockwell ?
     
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    Here's a Windmill shot taken at 10mm with the canon 10-22mm, I was much closer to the Windmill than you think.

    [​IMG]

    Ignore the barren sky though ;)
     
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    I'd quite like to do a few "strange looking" shots like that to be honest :) Nice shot :thumbsup:
     
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    Oh dear, what have I done :eek:

    Ken is a rather opinionated photographer, who has a notorious photography website. Some of the material on his site is excellent, some is pure Rockwell opinon, and some is pure fantasy.

    The usual drill is that newbies find his site and think he's wonderful (because Ken certainly thinks he is). Some of the advise is sound, however people tend to come to the conclusion that Ken is full of it. He is a huge hate figure over on www.dpreview.com, and any "I've just found this guy Ken Rockwell's site" thread turns into a flame war in seconds.

    Here are a couple of articles though...

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm
    http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/1022.htm
     
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    I recently found the current (May 2007) issue of Digital Photo magazine contains a lot of Landscape related articles:

    Landscape masterclass
    -what to shoot
    -depth of field
    -process and blend RAWs
    -enlarging and importing foregrounds

    Test of 10 wide-angle zooms

    10 video lessons on the CD - 3 related to landscapes and Photoshop

    All for a fiver :)
     
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    Those comparison shots as promised. taken 20 min ago. No cropping or editing apart from conversion from RAW ( there are more )

    Kit lens at 18mm
    [​IMG]

    Tokina at 12mm
    [​IMG]

    Tokina at 24mm
    [​IMG]

    Another tokina set Taken from Same viewpint

    At 12mm
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    At 18mm

    [​IMG]

    and at 24mm
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    Not very scientific but you get the idea: as I said there are a few more if you want a specific one

    This from yesterday was at 33mm from the 17- 85 ( similar range to kit lens)
    [​IMG]
     
  17. HMHB

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    Excellent cheers :thumbsup:
    You really have to be sure of your foreground interest with one of these ultra wide lenses don't you :D
     
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    You certainly do!!

    This was taken at 10mm with the Sigma

    [​IMG]

    Note the two people bottom right, they were a damn sight closer than they look in this photo :eek:

    And this was also taken at 10mm, nearly got my feet in :laugh:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. HMHB

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    Again nice one Steve. I do like the ultra wide perspective and might have to stop myself from doing too many shots at the wide end ;)
     
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    Indeed , otherwise you have to get closer ( which in some way defeats the purpose)
    But they tend to have distortions only at the very wide end and make for more pleasing images used with care

    Another 12 mm:devil:!! and I wasn't miles away from the trees

    [​IMG]
     
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    @ senu - you have a big dust bunny mid left on all of those pictures ;)
     
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    Thanks.. time to get the "dyson" out:)
     
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    I can thoroughly recommend the Tokina 12-24 as well. Has really worked well for me as a landscape lens. :smashin:
     
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    I bought a Tokina 12-24 about a month ago. Very solidly built and nice IQ. Worth noting that it can be had for £249.99 delivered from Onestop-Digital (where I bought mine).
     
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    A difficult decision coming up for me soon then :)
     
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    Are those flares you're wearing??? :rotfl:
     
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    LOL was just gonna mention the dust bunny ;)

    I found the 10-22 frustrating on the crop body in that what I saw through the view finder wasn't what I got in shot :( Very nice lense though but consider the alternatives like the Tokina etc before you part with your cash :)

    It is great for those landscape shots and the wierd angles alike, one this to be aware of is that you will struggle to get Cokin style filters [if you use them] to fit without affecting the frame :(
     
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    Maybe it's just be but I often think that UWA's are too wide for genuine landscape shots (ie. rolling fields, misty hills etc etc), resulting in a feeling of being too far away from the points of interest. I see them as far more useful for urban environments, interiors and creative angles.
     
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    It does seem that most of the Photography magazines this month are on about Landscapes, how to take them, which lenses to use ect. I have a (yet unopened) Digital Photo one but there are others.
    If you have the time, Just take a walk to your local WH Smith and have a browse
    One such mag does actually suggest a range of lenses rather than just the UWAs..
     
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    Indeed, I used to use a 28mm mostly and sometimes a 24mm on my old film SLR all those years ago. I suppose that's about the equivalent of 17 or 18 mm in digital format isn't it ? They used to say that a 50mm lens gave the equivalent viewpoint of the human eye, what's the corresponding lens in digital format ?
     

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