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Hi all, I have been through a process of elimination and come up with what I think is the best compromise so far of how to setup my 4 subwoofers in the lounge. What I was hoping for is if anyone has any comments or advice about how this could be done better - see the last two lines for the compromises I am currently making please and see if you can help...
I have an almost square lounge with:
Fronts KEF Q900
Surround KEF Q300
Centre KEF T301c
Amplified by Denon AVR-X3600 for surrounds and centre; set in 11.1 mode so that the front power amps are disconnected and preouts used to a Rotel power amp.
I have 4 REL subwoofers, one in each corner:
FL: Stadium 1 (high level input only).
FR: Strata 1 (high or low level input but not both).
RL: Storm 1 (high or low level input but not both).
RR: Storm 1 (high or low level input but not both).
Like many of you, I have these subwoofers not only because I like the sound they make but because I am also limited by my wife's aesthetic rules and they look like black veneered bits of furniture. They also cannot be swapped around as they are at the height she requires for the lamps that are on them!
When I only had the two Storms, I tried (with my then Denon AVR4310) to use them setting up Audyssey on low level inputs. Music (amp set in Pure Direct, Spotify Connect on 320kbps) is as important to me as cinema and I found that when the Storms were connected in stereo to high level, it was infinitely better.
So, in my current setup, I have both front subwoofers high level connected level and cutins set with my ears using "bass slides" and music tweaked over hours and hours until I have them how I deem perfect (my ears are 44 years old haha).
Then, the new Denon now runs Audyssey separately on the two rear low level connected subwoofers. It set the fronts as large (using a bass slide, I can hear them down to 35Hz, so I believe Audyssey) and the surrounds to large (ditto, down to about 40) and the centre at 180Hz. I've left this as it is for now.
Don't get me wrong, it all sounds amazing. However, I read all these forums that say I'm doing it wrong etc etc. With music, in pure direct, it sounds incredible (to me).
The two compromises I'm making are:
1. I feel like I am wasting the front subwoofers potential a bit when in cinema. Particularly the massive Stadium.
2. I can hear that the LFE channel mostly comes from the rear (I have LFE filter at 120Hz as recommended but even set to 80, I can hear it from the rear.
Any comments or help would be welcome. Personally, I can't see a fix without spending loads of money upgrading to REL Series 3 or later on the fronts, so they can have high and low level (but look identical to my wife).
Cheers, Christian.
I have an almost square lounge with:
Fronts KEF Q900
Surround KEF Q300
Centre KEF T301c
Amplified by Denon AVR-X3600 for surrounds and centre; set in 11.1 mode so that the front power amps are disconnected and preouts used to a Rotel power amp.
I have 4 REL subwoofers, one in each corner:
FL: Stadium 1 (high level input only).
FR: Strata 1 (high or low level input but not both).
RL: Storm 1 (high or low level input but not both).
RR: Storm 1 (high or low level input but not both).
Like many of you, I have these subwoofers not only because I like the sound they make but because I am also limited by my wife's aesthetic rules and they look like black veneered bits of furniture. They also cannot be swapped around as they are at the height she requires for the lamps that are on them!
When I only had the two Storms, I tried (with my then Denon AVR4310) to use them setting up Audyssey on low level inputs. Music (amp set in Pure Direct, Spotify Connect on 320kbps) is as important to me as cinema and I found that when the Storms were connected in stereo to high level, it was infinitely better.
So, in my current setup, I have both front subwoofers high level connected level and cutins set with my ears using "bass slides" and music tweaked over hours and hours until I have them how I deem perfect (my ears are 44 years old haha).
Then, the new Denon now runs Audyssey separately on the two rear low level connected subwoofers. It set the fronts as large (using a bass slide, I can hear them down to 35Hz, so I believe Audyssey) and the surrounds to large (ditto, down to about 40) and the centre at 180Hz. I've left this as it is for now.
Don't get me wrong, it all sounds amazing. However, I read all these forums that say I'm doing it wrong etc etc. With music, in pure direct, it sounds incredible (to me).
The two compromises I'm making are:
1. I feel like I am wasting the front subwoofers potential a bit when in cinema. Particularly the massive Stadium.
2. I can hear that the LFE channel mostly comes from the rear (I have LFE filter at 120Hz as recommended but even set to 80, I can hear it from the rear.
Any comments or help would be welcome. Personally, I can't see a fix without spending loads of money upgrading to REL Series 3 or later on the fronts, so they can have high and low level (but look identical to my wife).
Cheers, Christian.